CCC OD?

2 Cape teens OD on cold medication; 3rd victim survives

Three took so-called 'Triple C' in lethal doses
By ALISON KEPNER AND CHARLES RUNNELLS
[email protected] AND [email protected]
Published by news-press.com on February 21, 2005

Two Cape Coral teenagers are dead and another remains hospitalized after police say they overdosed Sunday on "Triple C."

Alex Kulwicki, 19, and two friends, both also 19, returned to his 102 Southeast 46th Terrace home sometime overnight.

When his family awoke around 9:40 a.m., relatives found Kulwicki passed out on a living room couch. The other men, whose names were not released as of noon today, were found on a bed in the back room not breathing, Cape Coral police said. They were pronounced dead at the scene.

Kulwicki went to Cape Coral Hospital Sunday, where he was initially listed in critical condition. By 11 a.m. Monday, he had been upgraded to good condition, said hospital spokeswoman Karen Krieger.

A man who answered the phone at Kulwicki's home Sunday evening said the family declined comment.

Triple C, the slang term for the over-the-counter medication Coricidin HBP Cough & Cold, contains dextromethorphan, commonly called DXM. Other slang terms for the drug include dex, candy, skittles and red devils.

While it is legitimately used to treat colds or allergy symptoms, when taken in high doses the drug can cause hallucinations and a sense of dissociation. Effects can last as long as six hours.

In high doses, the drug can cause increased body temperatures, irregular heart beat, high blood pressure, loss of consciousness, seizure, brain damage and death. Nausea, abdominal pain, vomiting, headache and numbness of fingers and toes are other effects.

The drug usually is taken orally, which is how the Cape teens took the powdered form of the drug, police Sgt. Phil McDonald said.

Investigators believe the men bought the drug over the Internet. How much they took and specifically where they bought it remains under investigation, police said.

Cape police have seen teen use of Triple C in the past, McDonald said.

"You get a lot of kids shoplifting it," he said.

Neither Kulwicki nor his friends had previous run-ins with police for drugs or any other problems, McDonald said.

Police expect to release the name of the other men as soon as they notify next of kin.
LINK: http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../502210382/1075

[Tyutchev]

Idiots.

We need to hack into the TV stations and the radio and send out major broadcasts saying "CCCs WILL KILL YOU". If these guys had just read the FAQ or been on the dextroverse or rfgdxm's page they wouldn't be dead right now. Well, not of CCC overdose anyway.

Originally posted by Tyutchev@Feb 22 2005, 08:12 AM
Idiots.

If these guys had just read the FAQ or been on the dextroverse or rfgdxm's page they wouldn't be dead right now. Well, not of CCC overdose anyway.

that is so true

Originally posted by Tyutchev@Feb 22 2005, 08:12 AM
Idiots.

We need to hack into the TV stations and the radio and send out major broadcasts saying "CCCs WILL KILL YOU". If these guys had just read the FAQ or been on the dextroverse or rfgdxm's page they wouldn't be dead right now. Well, not of CCC overdose anyway.

DXM WILL KILL YOU in the same sense too.

[Einherjar]

wait. they said they bought a 'powdered form of it' on the internet?


so they bought powdered CCC online and ate it? :P lol

[Krystena]

CCCCCC Cape Coral Corcidin Cold and Cough Cunts are going to ruin shit for everyone if this shit keeps happening. There should be a test before you take drugs, so we can weed out idiots like this.

Originally posted by Drage Av Lys@Feb 22 2005, 06:11 PM
wait. they said they bought a 'powdered form of it' on the internet?


so they bought powdered CCC online and ate it? :P lol

Friend claims teens overdosed on DXM
WBBH-TV

LEE COUNTY— Dustin Waits knew all three teens involved in Sunday morning's alleged drug overdose. He says he tested out the exact batch of drugs believed to have killed Chris Hundley and Steve Wambolt and put Alex Kulwicki in the hospital.

Nineteen year old Dustin Waits claims he was with Alex Kulwicki and friends last Friday night when the package arrived.

"It was a regular yellow envelope, with a Ziploc bag of 25 g of DXM," said Waits.

DXM is dextromethorphan, a powerful drug with psychedelic effects at high doses. It's found in cold medicines like Coricidin.

Waits says the powder form of DXM was purchased off of a website called *edit* and was mailed to Kulwicki's friend Torin Lother in Fort Myers so no one's parents would find it.

When it arrived several of the men tried it.

"I had not done DXM in a while, and it made us all sick," said Waits.

According to police, sometime early Sunday morning, Alex Kulwicki, Chris Hundley and Steve Wambolt overdosed on a drug bought off the internet. Two of those teens died. Police will not say what drug they allegedly used.

Waits was not there that night, but says the three men took DXM. Hundley and Wambolt died and Kulwicki ended up in the hospital.

"We're used to them sitting out on the porch and now there's just three empty chairs," said Waits.

Looking at pictures, poems and music Wambolt made, Lother was unable to speak on camera. He has spoken with detectives.

Waits has been scared straight from using DXM and hopes parents take a closer look into what their kids are doing.

"You never think you could die, until it happens," said Waits.

Wambolt was into music and often wrote guitar riffs. Friends don’t have many pictures of Hundley because he was always the one taking the pictures.

The website where the teens allegedly purchased the drug warns, "This is not a finished pharmaceutical product, but an active ingredient. These products are not intended for human consumption."

Waits and Lother say the teens were aware of the dangers of DXM, but believes they just used too much.

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This one names a specific supplier.... they are probably next to get raided and indicted.

The further away from the source the sketchier information is.

Coricidin HBP Cold and Cough Medicine

Authorities in Southwest Florida say two 19-year-old men are dead and another man is hospitalized after they apparently overdosed on a drug found in an over-the-counter cold medicine.

Cape Coral Police say the two friends were found unconscious early Monday in a home.

Police believe the men took too much Coricidin HBP Cough & Cold, which contains Dextromethorphan.

When taken in high doses it can cause can cause hallucinations, increased body temperatures, irregular heart beat, high blood pressure and death.

The men were believed to have obtained the drug over the Internet.

Coricidin HBP Cough & Cold

* high dosage warnings
* hallucinations
* increased body temp.
* irregular heat beat
* high blood pressure
* death

Link: http://www.wtvynews4.com/home/headlines/1290887.html

[rfgdxm]

Originally posted by drdªv€@Feb 23 2005, 06:46 AM
This one names a specific supplier.... they are probably next to get raided and indicted.

THANK YOU drdªv€. I so far haven't been able to find that WBBH-TV news report using Google Groups. I consider that report to be sufficiently credible that I have added it to my website. The main open issue I see is confirming with the coroner they took DXM, and whether any other drugs were involved. Anyone know the phone number of the Lee County, Florida coroner's office? FWIW odds are it'll take at least a few weeks for the full tox results to come in.

And, if anyone knows this specific supplier, please privately tell me. I was unable to find it with a Google search. (And NO I am not looking to buy DXM. My interest is journalistic.)

Originally posted by rfgdxm@Feb 23 2005, 01:27 PM
Anyone know the phone number of the Lee County, Florida coroner's office? FWIW odds are it'll take at least a few weeks for the full tox results to come in.

http://www.lee-county.com/employee/search2.asp

Here is the Lee County #'s, fill us in on the details please.