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Children's Deaths Lead To FDA Hearing On, Cough Medication's Efficacy in Children
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The JoKer
  Posted: Oct 18 2007, 02:27 PM


yay now I can write arbitrary text!!


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Dex related so I thought I'd post this.

"A few months later, the results came back. The cause of death: Dextromethorphan intoxication. Devon's family says they were told later that Devon's body could not metabolize one of the key ingredients found in many infant cold and cough medicines."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/10/17/cough...aths/index.html

Poor kid.

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KINGOFTHEFOREST
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 02:41 PM


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fuck i fail nevermind this is CYP2D6 discussion.

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sam^4
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 02:45 PM


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poor parents sad.gif

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metatron
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 03:11 PM


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that's terrible. it is an all to real reminder that people need to test with smaller doses prior to ever taking a recreational dose of dxm, just to ensure that the same does not happen to them. sad.gif

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Monoliath
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 03:28 PM


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R.I.P. Devon

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I, for one, would rather live with danger and retain my freedom. I'd much rather live with the probability of being killed by a terrorist than give up an ounce of my freedom to "fight" those terrorists.

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Reverend Tulasi
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 03:45 PM


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From a philosophical point of view, it's a strange concept to come into this world only to leave 4 months later. I really feel for the parents, having a little boy myself.

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KINGOFTHEFOREST
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 04:56 PM


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oh noes. all forces are conspiring. five moms & now a grandma.

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Posted: Oct 18 2007, 04:58 PM


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Shit thats sad sad.gif

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Posted: Oct 18 2007, 05:39 PM


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Nobody's fault but the person who trusts anybody besides themselves. And nobody can even trust themselves. It's all... Too much for human words. The women trusted the doctor... (Whom, according to society [Because he has all these super, duper college degrees] is the person to say whether or not somebody should take a medicine) Always look into something. Always do your research. Never put shit in a baby, who is much smaller than anybody else, and more sensitive to dose. I seriously contemplated whether or not to post that. Too late now. =/

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Temüjin
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 06:36 PM


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I wonder how much they gave him.

Moving to DXM News.

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Liquid Fiend
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 07:21 PM


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I wonder how much they gave him.


Curious about that myself.

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Temüjin
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 08:12 PM


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I didn't realize we had duplicate threads. I merged them and cleaned it up a bit.

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"One of the most dominant views of man is the material view. The motto of this concept is ‘Eat, drink and be merry.’ The problem was that I had eaten, I had drunk – but still wasn’t merry." - Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam

Robitussin is manic depression in a bottle.

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Posted: Oct 18 2007, 08:18 PM


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Over the past two years, 1,500 babies and toddlers have wound up in emergency rooms after having a bad reaction to cold medicines, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Then perhaps it's use in infants should be reevaluated.

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"There's no evidence that they actually work"


For the directed usage, this is actually more or less true, it's not anymore effective than a placebo dose in most studies.

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However, when separated by treatment group, no significant differences were found for any of the outcome measures when comparing the effects of DPH, DM, and PL


http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/.../full/114/1/e85

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Monoliath
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 08:52 PM


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To the O.P. you've posted a dupe, I already posted a full article on this story...why is this double posted on the front page of the site?

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I, for one, would rather live with danger and retain my freedom. I'd much rather live with the probability of being killed by a terrorist than give up an ounce of my freedom to "fight" those terrorists.

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Temüjin
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 09:08 PM


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Sorry Mono, but he beat you to it, so I kept his post when I merged the threads. tongue.gif

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Monoliath
Posted: Oct 18 2007, 09:10 PM


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Ok, I was just wondering what in the hell had happened!!

Right on smile.gif

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I, for one, would rather live with danger and retain my freedom. I'd much rather live with the probability of being killed by a terrorist than give up an ounce of my freedom to "fight" those terrorists.

"guitar hero is horrible. i hate it. it's a representation of the decline of everything in this world" - Amide

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ZachShalack
Posted: Oct 19 2007, 01:39 AM


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Well doctors are people too. 70 cases isn't really enough to base a suggestion on. In my oppinion of course.

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The Onyxmizer
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I think this is going to be the final straw for the FDA to pull DXM. Now they could just add it to the warning due to the apparent infrequency, but this still doesn't look god for us.


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drkkain
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Just think of the good side to it, robitussin/dxm ingredient containing products will be on major sale for a while.

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Psychotic Break
Posted: Oct 23 2007, 05:28 PM


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Why would you give your infant cough medicine anyway? It's not good for you, it's only supposed to lessen the symptoms although the cold is still there.

An infant is not even going to remember that cold in a few months, why do they need to be taking medicine? It's always seemed to me that giving babies medicine when it isn't absolutely necessary was a bad idea.

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