"We've now reached the point where the stuff you can buy over the counter
is stronger than anything you can buy on the street."
- Dennis Leary
THE DXM ZINE
Issue 2. December 1997.
A Symposium of Articles Pertaining to DXM Use.
(c)1997 Jeff Sothen
Please visit our IRC channel on EFnet at #Dxm.
Official #Dxm Web page at http://phun.dreamhost.com/dxm.
Edited by Gravol, with article contributions by fellow DXMers.
Disclaimer: The authors of this zine do not condone the use of
Dextromethorphan in any way. This text is simply used as an informative
guide to issues relating to Dextromethorphan use and should be used
for entertainment purposes only. We are not responsible for any
actions taken by anyone reading this text.
CONTENTS
1. Letters to the Editor
2. DXM...The New Wave (by Anonymous)
3. Extrasensory Perception (ESP) and DXM (by Gravol, William White)
4. DXM Withdrawal (by Anonymous, William White)
5. My Third Trip (by Ackers)
6. The Trip From Hell...Punderson Manor (by Gravol)
7. The Effects of Smoking on DXM (by various authors)
8. Material Data Safety Sheet on DXM (by Wanman Enterprises)
9. The Doors of Perception (by Gravol)
10.LSD vs. DXM (by varous authors)
11.My Experiences with DXM (by DeeXMan)
12.DXM Writings (by Gravol)
13.DXM Drug Culture and the Future of DXM Use (by William White)
14.Beware of Bromide Poisoning (by Anonymous)
15.DXM Extraction...A Method That Works (by Buzzed)
16.Moron of the Moment...And My Response (by William White)
17.Tips for Downing Cough Syrup (by various authors)
18.Info on Ordering Pure DXM Powder (from compiled information)
19.DXM Music Reviews (by Gravol, Jason Rudolf)
20.Various DXM Sources (from the PDR for Non-Prescription Drugs)
21.Various DXM Internet Sites
22.Various Trip Reports (from Internet reports)
23.Credits/Zine Information
Listed below are a few letters received after the publication of the first
issue and the editor's response.
>From [email protected]:
Great job on the e-zine, I especially liked the part on "paranormal" activity.
I have also had experiences sort of like that. Not with lights or electricity,
but with something to do with extra senses (ESP seeming things) and even things
that have moved slightly when I REALLY concentrate on them. Most people (and
I at first) told me it was just an over-acting imagination (and on DXM, imagin-
ation can sometimes be indistinguishable from reality in some forms). This may
be true, or they could of just been very small vague hallucinations (which is
practically imagination anyway). However, I still think that there is some-
thing strange about these "coincidences" simply because it has happened to
much to be considered coincidence in my book. Oh well, no-one will ever know
most likely.
Also, I totally agree with your evaluation of Delsym. I have actually
gotten to almost 3 bottles over a few hours (not quite there, after 2
bottles, even the nice orange like flavor gets a bit sickening, so
probably i'd list it at more like 2.5 bottles or so) and have still
not gotten the effects I have gotten per say off 700-800 mg of pure DXM.
Well, anyway, probably sick of reading my rambling, so on to the real point
of this letter. I enjoyed reading this and would definitely like to continue
to do so. However, I was wondering if you would still be able to send a few
copies through e-mail. My parents have caught me numerous times with other
drugs, and even though its unlikely they would open, or find out about the
zine sent through the mail, I don't really want to take the chance. Even
though I have a 3.5 GPA, and have no "behavior" problems at home, school or
with friends, they are "worried" about my drug use, and think that I've just
started in the past 6 months or so, and they believe that I will start going
down hill soon. This is ridiculous, considering I've been using some types
of drugs for the last 5 years or so, but they are still looking for anything
the can to justify sending me to a program for "friendly" drug treatment.
I know from close friends that especially the "friendly" part is bullshit
and I really don't feel like ending up in that jail (which is practically
what it is from what I've heard). I feel quite sure that it would be the
end if my parents were to find out about me "tripping off of cough syrup"
and they would defiantly think I needed help when I'm not even using "real"
drugs. Sad but true to people who just don't get it.
Anyway, now after I have unloaded a bunch of crap that you could probably
care less about, basically I just would like to know if I could get it
through e-mail still. If not, I understand, but I figured it would hardly
be much of an inconvenience considering you must be making it on your computer
anyway, and you don't even have to print it.
- Diamond
>From the Editor:
Diamond:
Thanks for the compliments on the zine. As I said, this is just the begin-
ing and I am expecting continued success and exposure with this symposium.
I agree with your viewpoints on ESP and the fact that it is hard to disting-
uish imagination from actual paranormal effects. I have explored a little
into ESP in this issue as you will later read.
As far as the zine being distributed via e-mail, I am all for it but it
is difficult to do at the moment since I have very limited Internet access.
However, I am hoping some individual(s) will take the liberty and good fortune
at displaying each issue on their web page for others to download. Currently,
Phunistle has a page up at http://phun.dreamhost.com/dxm/zine but last I knew
it was down. I should eventually have permanent Internet access so if worst
comes to worst I will post the zine on the Internet then, after I move to
Florida early next year. Thanks for your interest!
- Gravol
>From [email protected]:
Thanks, I found it both entertaining and informative.
-Dave Benjamin
>From the Editor:
Dave:
Thanks for the good review. I will be sure to keep up the interesting
aspects of these articles.
-Gravol
by Anonymous
I was unloading the truck in the warehouse of a store where I work one day
when I came across something interesting: a shipment of Coricidin Cough &
Cold, containing 36 boxes of 24 bonus packs. That's almost 26 grams worth
of DXM. I gave some out toa friend who I quickly got hooked on it, who in
turn gave it out to his friends in a different city and before I knew it
he had a lot of people wanting it. I also gave some Coricidin pills to
another guy at work who also liked the experience, but before I could give
him any more he ended up getting fired.
Pretty soon my order from Wanman Enterprises came in...50 grams worth.
I started selling pills to a new guy at work who in turn got a bunch of
people hooked. I soon found out from him that half of one local high
school was already hooked on Coricidin. I couldn't believe my ears...
this stuff was spreading like wildfire. And I knew the pure stuff would
go over 10 times better than Coricidin because 1) it doesn't have the
antihistamine Chlorphenaramine Maleate that Coricidin does and 2) it
only takes one capsule to fuck you up. I'd buy some St. John's Wort,
empty out all 60 capsules and load those up with the DXM powder. Worked
like a charm.
A few days later I started noticing a trend in our store: boxes of
Coricidin Cough & Cold would just sell out in a matter of days. One particular
night two kids got busted by our undercover security officers for stealing
Coricidin (the wrong type I might add). Soon after that we got a new shipment
in of the Cough & Cold variety so I decided to try something new: I put in
slips of paper with my phone number in the remaining 6 boxes on the shelf
(yes, the other 30 boxes had sold in a matter of days). I did this to see
if anyone would take the clue and give me a call, knowing that I knew about
the new fad. Sure enough, the next night all 6 boxes were gone.
Later that night I got a phone call from a guy who said a friend of his
bought a box which had my number in it. We talked about all the recent
Coricidin thefts and I was amazed at how huge DXM was becoming in this
Ohio town of roughly a quarter million people.
Meanwhile, I let my old school buddies try some of the pure stuff and
they in turn got a shitload of people hooked. We're talking about popular
guys and girls who only smoke weed and trip acid occasionally were going
berserk for this shit. All my closest friends are now taking DXM and the
market for selling it locally in pill-form looks extremely promising. We
can buy a gram for less than two dollars, and resell it for as much as
ten dollars. That's five times the profit!
We had a few close calls while driving under the influence of it but all-
in-all everything's going over great. You may think it's just low-lifes on
this drug, but it's not. It's everyone from hot chicks to popular guys at
high school. The stuff has spread so much already that it's just overwhelming
to think about, and all this is just at the local level.
The future of DXM is as wide open as the great blue sky. Virtually un-
limited, cheap supplies available to only a limited few who really know
about the stuff and a world full of people just looking to get off on it.
I know you may be skeptical of it, but don't be. It's the fastest growing
drug there is, and it'll eventually spur publicity, so that's why I'm remain-
ing anonymous.
I even hear the letters DXM are carved in the pavement in front of the
Radio Shack in the plaza where I work...
by Gravol, William White
Many people have reported weird incidents of heightened psychic abilities
and ESP while under the influence of DXM. True ESP tests can only be
conducted while using special cards containing pictures of a triangle,
square, wavy lines, circle, and a cross.
However, I urge you to try with a simple deck of 52 playing cards and
see if you can come up with any interesting results. These tests may
become redundant at times and it's very easy to get bored and just
start guessing and not really using ESP to achieve results, and I
caution against this. You should concentrate on each card, and while
special ESP cards are prefered, I am giving directions to try with an
ordinary deck of cards. Please use extreme patience and concentration
while testing or it won't work properly.
1. Take and shuffle all 52 cards and sort them one-by-one face down into
4 piles (Hearts, Spades, Diamonds, and Clubs) while concentrating on
what they are.
2. Flip over the cards and count up all the cards that you placed in the
correct piles and divide by 52 and change to percentage.
3. Repeat several times and calculate the overall percentage correct.
4. Repeat this test both while sober and under the influence of DXM and
record the results.
If you do this properly please forward all results to me and I will publish
them in a future issue (see my address at the end of the zine). It should be
noted, however, that ESP seems more like something that occurs from a coincid-
ence on DXM rather than a concrete testing of its presence.
I would also like to share something interesting that's been happening
lately after regular DXM use: psychic dreams. Most of these "psychic" dreams
occurred while under the influence of DXM as I was coming down from a night's
trip. Perhaps just strange coincidences, they've included: dreaming I ran
out of gas while driving to work the night just before I actually did;
dreaming of being in a particular store and then after arriving there the
next day, suddenly remembering the dream I had about it the night before;
dreaming about getting fucked up on whipits the day just before I went out
with friends and did it. There have been many more weird coincidences in
dreams but I don't remember them now. All this has also happened over just
a week's time of daily DXM use. The dreams seemed no different or clearer
than normal dreams, just a little easier to remember the following morning,
but most of the time I don't remember the dream until after I do the thing
that I dreamt about. Very weird.
Below I included an excerpt from William White's excellent DXM FAQ on the
subject:
A few people have reported "Psi" phenomena such as ESP (extrasensory percept-
ion), clairvoyance (psychically seeing distant places), and the like. Tele-
kinesis doesn't seem to be reported, although a few report that, while under
the influence of DXM, they felt like they could slightly influence the laws
of probability. All of these can be safely explained as simply drug-induced
delusions, although there has been to my knowledge no formal research on the
subject.
It is possible that ESP and related phenomena (with DXM use or without)
exist but occur entirely randomly, or only when not being observed critically.
Since repeatability, and invariance under observation, are the foundations of
science, it may be that questions about psychic phenomena will never yield
entirely to science. At this point it becomes a matter of faith.
One interesting factor which does differentiate ESP from other paranormal
phenomena is that while most paranormal experiences occur more often during
heavier geomagnetic activity, ESP occurs more often during decreasing geo-
magnetic activity. The true believers would probably argue that the geomag-
netic field is interfering with ESP; the skeptics would most likely suggest
that "ESP" is just a consequence of similar thought patterns leading to
similar conclusions, and that the geomagnetic field may be capable of inducing
noise into the system.
As you can see, White's analysis of ESP also coincides with mine in regards
to the belief that ESP cannot really be directly tested, it is only something
that results from coincidence. Below White comments on the Cosmic Coincidence
Control Theory, or the Cosmic Coincidence Central, as he puts it:
Everyone take a deep breath, we're about to jump off into the deep end. Many
people who have frequently used DXM or other dissociatives begin to develop
consistent contact with "aliens" (with all due skepticism, these are probably
elements of one's subconscious mind that have taken on characteristics of
independent consciousness). Regardless of the cause, one particular subset
of these aliens seem to have surprisingly consistent behavior and intentions.
Here, basically, is the message that can be pieced together from dissociative
users.
There are numerous groups of entities or aliens, but two in particular are
relevant. One group, the "helpful aliens," are attempting to guide humankind
towards societal and spiritual progress with the ultimate intention that we
come so far advanced that we can leave behind the earth (and possibly the
physical world), and join a vast, intergalactic federation of other races.
In order to keep us from blowing ourselves up or slipping into societal chaos,
these helpful aliens do what they can to keep us on the right track.
However, there are limits, either by some sort of convention or law, or by
the nature of noncorporeal existence, to what these aliens can do. For
example, they probably can't show up in big motherships and announce peace
on earth; they can't suddenly make all guns and bombs disappear. They seem
to be able to influence human progress only by means that appear as coin-
cidence, such as fortuitous events, sudden insights and inspirations, luck,
and that sort of thing. Some people have suggested that these "helpful aliens"
are bending some sort of "law" by helping us out, and they can only do it as
long as it can't be absolutely proven that they interfered without progress.
Then there are the "not-so-helpful aliens." Not necessarily evil, but
totally unconcerned with our race, and unconvinced that we are worth the
trouble of helping. Some would say that they view us as we view ants, and
would have no qualms about exterminating us if they felt it wise to do so.
They too are restricted to operating primarily through coincidence.
Some people have developed surprisingly complex theories about these
aliens and their goals and methods. Sometimes the aliens give their names.
One person was contacted by an alien named Calsutmoran who said he was from
"very far away" (pers. comm.), and explained the Cosmic Coincidence Theory.
What is surprising is that someone else, who had never heard this story,
also reported contact with an alien of the exact same name...
In conclusion, I will reverberate what White has said, that I believe there's
a part of the human mind that we don't really understand, that may be receiv-
ing and transmitting information in ways we do not recognize. Nonetheless, as
many people believe, the "truth is out there," and we might as well take
advantage of trying to find it.
by Anonymous, William White
I wasn't sure but I pretty much figured I was addicted to DXM. Afterall, I
was doing it almost every night in the form of Coricidin Cough & Cold.
Sometimes I'd do up to 25 pills (750mg) at once...other times even more.
I'd also mix it with pot & LSD (whenever I could obtain it) and eventually
cigarettes & coke. Well, I started having the problems most users get with
frequent high plateau trips - problems like mood swings, depression, etc.,
plus on top of that the drug was becoming less and less enjoyable. Eventually
it to to the point where I couldn't take DXM without puking. So I stopped.
Or at least, tried to.
The first few days were fine. Still felt a little bit of the DXM but I was
pretty much returning to normal - then all of a sudden it hit. Nightmares,
about anything from the end of the world to ghosts to killers and stalkers
coming after me. And in the daytime I'd develope slight headaches - very,
very annoying. I'd be fine one minute and the next feel light-headed and
queasy. It was getting to the point where I HAD to take DXM just to get
rid of these effects.
Finally I decided enough was enough. I was going to stay off the drug,
no matter how bad the nightmares got. Well, needless to say they grew worse
and became much more intense, the headaches much more frequent, and I started
to develop sinus problems along with a feeling of just being physically ex-
hausted and not wanting to do anything. Depression also set in. I'd say it
took a good 2-3 weeks of pure Hell to get past these effects, but they DO
go away - it's only a matter of time. Once they were gone I was finally back
to normal - for the first time since I started taking DXM. The sober reality
I was now experiencing was not like the sober reality during the withdrawal
symptoms - I could actually live life again on a regular basis and feel per-
fectly fine, full of energy, etc. - just as I had always been before I started
taking DXM.
But, you know me...I eventually got back into DXM when things got a little
slow and boring, so I started up again with Coricidin until I experienced
some rather unpleasant effects from the antihistamine, so I switched to syrup
and eventually to pure pwodered form. And that's where I'm at right now.
As long as I do DXM on a regular basis (every 2-3 days) I'm fine... full
of energy, physically fit, emotionally stable. But if I stop taking it, I
start to develop the nightmares and physical stress again. I know it'll event-
ually go away if I stay sober long enough, but I want to still trip DXM. So
instead of doing it every week or so I'm forced to do it on a more regular
basis now because of the DXM withdrawal.
This is what William White has to say on DXM withdrawal, taken from the
FAQ:
Withdrawal from occasional DXM use is almost certainly not dangerous, and
in fact any "symptoms" felt are probably just "jonesing" - the same sort of
withdrawal "symptoms" felt with marijuana, television, sex, etc. At this
point it's a matter of willpower more than anything else.
Once tolerance has built, withdrawal has the potential to cause more
serious problems. Mild tolerance to DXM is probably no more dangerous than
mild tolerance to alcohol (tolerance at the level of "being able to hold your
liquor"). Withdrawal may produce boredom and mild anxiety, but rarely anything
more troubling than that.
One person reported a curious withdrawal effect which has also been noted
upon cessation of SSRI antidepressant therapy. Whenever moving his eyes, or
upon any sudden change in sensory input, he experienced a sudden, momentary
dizziness and altered consciousness. Ginko biloba, exercise, and sleep were
reported to all help with this.
Beyond the mild tolerance level, things could get rapidly worse. There is
evidence that significant NMDA upregulation can occur and many of the symptoms
of opiate withdrawal may occur via a similar mechanism. The good news is,
studies generally haven't found any significant evidence of brain damage from
heroin withdrawal, so withdrawal from DXM probably wouldn't be much trouble.
The bad news is, heroin withdrawal isn't particularly enjoyable.
Interestingly, one person who developed addiction and tolerance to DXM
also compared the withdrawal symptoms to those of heroin (although DXM never
produced any of the positive effects of opiates in this individual). These
symptoms included watery eyes, stuffy nose, gooseflesh, muscle spasms, in-
creased pain sensitivity, nausea, anxiety, and depression. Furthermore, the
individual eventually began to develop some of these symptoms even while
using DXM. This is definitely something to avoid.
If you happen to develop a significant degree of tolerance to DXM, it
might be a good idea not to quit "cold turkey" (all at once). Build down
slowly over a few weeks, and avoid all other drugs in the mean time. One
person who had been using DXM twice daily reported no withdrawal symptoms
after decreasing the dosage 10% per day, and stopping at 180mg. This should
prevent any excitotoxic rebound.
On the other hand, given the research from Olney et al, it may be better
to go ahead and quit cold turkey after all. Some research casts doubt upon
upregulation of NMDA receptors with blockade, and if so, then there may be
no danger of quitting DXM completely without tapering down. To be honest,
there is evidence on both sides, and the best advice I can give you is not
to get into this situation in the first place. If you do manage to develop
a DXM addiction, I wish you the best of luck, and I think your best course
of action would be to see a physician. Since most medical authorities are
ignorant of DXM's psychoactive potential, it would probably be advisable to
treat it as an addiction to any other dissociative (ketamine or PCP).
Sorry for bombarding you with all this information, but perhaps you've had a
similar experience?
by Ackers
Early friday morning I had my third DXM trip.
Wow. I took 420mg in 14 gelcaps. I can't believe I managed to swallow
all those fuckers. About an hour and a half later it hit. Man, did it hit.
I'd say this was definitely a second plateau trip. I felt much more numb
than previous trips. Anything that required me to move was a challenge.
Walking to the bathroom especially. I started to really feel the dissociative
effects here. I fell in and out of what I will call Innerspace. I felt a
new universe envelop me, but not my body, just my consciousness. Very cool
experience. I would always come back after a bit, though. CEV's (Closed-Eye
Visuals) were there too. A few times I imagined a room, or object and they
became very real and 3D, almost as if I could step into them. Very wild
visuals. Unfortunately towards the end of the trip, the sun was coming up
and it was hard to keep light from intruding. Need to make some opaque
goggles or something. Sixteen Horsepower sounded really cool.
One thing I noticed was that the peak seemed to end rather suddenly. I
opened my eyes, and after that I could no longer get the visuals or
dissociation as strong as they were. Still felt numb and happy for hours
afterwards. Talking to Alison that morning was fun. I don't think she's as
eager to try it as I thought. She was rather surprised when I told her I had
tripped again. I think she still considers recreational drugs evil and bad.
Oh well. Her loss.
Next trip I think I will do 600mg. This should bring on some fully
dissociative effects. Have to wait awhile though. Finals and vacation
coming up. Maybe while I am on vacation, who knows.
I must try lucid dreaming and astral projection more. DXM seems to be a
shortcut to get to Innerspace, but it is not without its side effects.
Perhaps I should try to acquire some ketamine. Must experiment more with
this state of consciousness.
by Gravol
Punderson Manor sits atop a large hill overlooking eerie Punderson Lake, all
surrounded by dense woods and a vast nothingness named Punderson State Park,
about 35 miles east of Cleveland. But it is more than just the frightening
experience of this English-style tudor mansion that caught my attention...it
is also the fact that it is haunted.
There are hundreds of sightings, but some of the more notable include a
teenage girl who drowned in the lake in 1977 and was seen slowly walking
back out of the water covered with seaweed a few weeks later by a band of
gypsies who knew nothing of the original drowning. The girl walked a few
feet on the shore of the lake, then returned to the dark and murky waters
and disappeared. And then there were three night employees of the lodge
finding a large man, fingers twitching, hanging by a noose that disappeared
somewhere near the ceiling of the Cherry Dining Room, and being so horrified
at this gruesome sight that they all three remained in shock at the foot of
the winding staircase watching the apparition until sunrise.
After reading about the park in Haunted Ohio II by Chris Woodyard, and
paying a few visits to the ancient place, I finally decided to get a
room and crash there with four other friends for the weekend - and with
a hefty supply of DXM.
The day I arrived, Friday, only one friend was with me...Jake. The other
three would arrive later that night. I waited down in the lobby for some time,
then I overheard a man at the front desk talking to an employee: it seems that
at 2am the previous night his lights, television, and faucets went on and off,
scaring the hell out of him and his wife...and he happened to be staying in
the room just across the hall from ours.
I went back upstairs and hung out with Jake until finally well after dark
my other three friends arrived: Mike, Jeremy, and Steve.
The first night was spent smoking a lot of weed and being on moderate
doses of DXM. Jeremy ended up passing out, which left us four to roam the
dark house alone. The night desk clerk downstairs looked like a vampire from
The Lost Boys, which scared my friends, but he agreed to take us up into the
Tower (which has been shut off from the public for years). Upon ascending the
narrow staircase he warned us of a large bat that makes its home up there (he
was very serious in everything he spoke of and refused to go up without a
large flashlight to beat the thing with in case it attacked him). I was al-
ready developing a nice speech impairment from the DXM and my friends were
quite edgy, especially since it all appeared to be dreamlike. Well, actually,
this dream seemed more likea nightmare as every minute passed.
The Tower was dark and abandoned, littered with old lodge supplies and
furniture. It was also rumored that the guy who built the lodge hung himself
up here, but there's no substantial evidence to that. Anyway, we were all
exploring the dismal place when the vampire-guy inadvertently (or so we
thought) opened up a small closet door while mumbling to himself, "What's
in here?" He shined the flashlight beam inside it.
My friend Mike stood back in utter shock. Inside was an old dusty mirror
and written on it was "GET THESE DAMN KIDS OUT OF MY HOUSE"... Mike later
told me he had read it and seen his own reflection just at the same time
and it drove him over the edge of sanity and into sheer terror. To me, it
wasn't that big of a deal... I tried to stay mellow.
Our little midnight tour commenced and we found ourselves back in our
room with a passed-out Jeremy trying to come up with new things to do. I
think at one point we went down to the Game Room (adjoining the basement
on the new side of the manor) and played with a large keyboard that seemed
to fascinate Steve the most. The Game Room was vast and open, surrounded
half by windows peering into the nearby woods and half by a brick wall
which masked the basement on the other side. We later jumped out of our
hides at a strange sound from the other smaller adjacent arcade room, but
that was most likely just a pinball machine beeping away.
We eventually retired back to our room, lit a candle in front of a mirror,
listened to the radio and just talked while we came down off the trip. It
seemed like hours went by, and I remember just as the first hint of daylight
shone through our tiny window, the candle wick burnt to its last breath and
distinguished into a smoky haze. The night was over.
That morning Jeremy and Steve decided to go back into Akron (a good hour's
drive) and do some catching up to do with their friends while Mike, Jake and
I all stayed behind. That day we explored the surrounding woods and lake,
finding some interesting contraptions and shelters built with tangled
branches but nothing too obscure.
After our winterland escapade we retired back inside, bored. Went down
to the Game Room and was messing around with the pool table.
Suddenly someone comes walking in... I couldn't believe my eyes - a
beautiful waitress/employee no older than 17 who was assigned to dismantle
some chairs from a previous night's meeting (you see, lots of companies
reserve board rooms and the Game Room for their business gatherings). I
no longer remember her name, but we all four talked a great deal... she
mentioned how people were different and stuck up at this place and how
she attended a local high school. We invited her up to our room later on
after she got off work and she said she'd see about it (she was quite shy).
She eventually had to leave as to not get in trouble. To us, it was the
only warm moment spent in this eerie mansion... and it truly was the last
time all of us actually enjoyed a good laugh, a good conversation, and a
beautiful hostess, while outside the windows snow gently fell and caressed
the surrounding fields and woods. You see, it was as if the place was be-
coming increasingly evil towards us... everyone from employees and guests to the house itself. Let me explain...
Mike and Jake were already reporting to me weird looks by lodge employees
and other people inside the lodge... and even moody attitudes brought against
us as if we were outsiders. Perhaps it was the DXM playing with our head, but
I highly doubt it. Twice, we had heard very strange things: once, while coming
in from outside, Mike and I ascended the front steps and heard someone talking
from the kitchen portion of the manor - it was just an ordinary conversation
that I knew we had heard wrong (we could barely even make out what was being
said up until that point) - but that's just it - we both heard the same im-
possible thing: "You're gonna die." We just looked at each other after it was
said and began to say "Did you hear tha..." That was all it took and I knew
Mike had heard it too.
And again wihle walking up through the narrow hallway in the old section
of the manor (by our room) Jake and I overheard a conversation from behind
a closed door which we passed (from the same room coincidentally that the
guest had reported strange occurrences to the front desk clerk) - this time
we heard "You're dead."
And if that wasn't enough to drive us insane, while we were back in our
room the TV shuts off by itself as I'm sitting on the bed watching it. I was
the closest to the TV and remote and I know it shut off by itself. We turned
it on again without a problem. By this time we were all beginning to get
scared, but the worst was yet to come.
Most of us came under the impression that we were drawn together here
for a reason... it was destiny. I've never felt such a strong feeling of
fate in my life. We felt as if we were unlocking the hidden mysteries of
our life in this old manor. It was truly amazing to say the least.
I am going to conclude our little hellish experience below, and I'd
like to say that everything I write is the sole truth, so help me God.
Jeremy and Steve came back that night. We told them about the girl we met
down in the Game Room (which they thought we were lying about) and we took
a drive to the nearest town, Newbury, to sort of get away and find some
more Coricidin. We also got pretty high from smoking lots of pot in the
car. Of course, all the stores were closed and we were out in the middle
of nowhere (nothing but dense woods and hills surrounded this part of Ohio)
so we decided to head back. As we returned back down that twisting road of
Route 87, I remember the sky to this day... it looked dark and hellish, with
little hints of red towards the horizon (the sun was going down) but other-
wise a deep bluish-black shroud of death... and our destination being the
House of Hell itself.
We got back and made due with the DXM we had. Jeremy, however, was going
to go back later that night down to his college dorm because of classes the
following Monday and having to study for a test. We were all five chilling
in the room and had just come out of the bathroom with a mild DXM buzz from
smoking more pot when Jake reached down on the floor to pick up his sweatshirt
but instead held up a pair of ancient-looking keys that looked like they
belonged to a medieval English dungeon. He later told us it was as if he
"just reached through some dimension and grabbed the keys and brought them
back into this dimension." To this day not one of us knows where they act-
ually came from.
Then to make matters worse the phone in our room rang once. Then dead
silence. I could tell Jeremy was starting to question what the hell was
going on, and he wasn't even on DXM. Plus Jeremy never was afraid of any-
thing supernatural. Some time passed after trying to figure out where the
keys came from and then Jake said "maybe it's a sign that we're going to
jail - "...
Just then there was a knock on our door. What the hell! I personally
thought it was the cops, but I didn't know what to expect... nobody knew us
up here! I was closest to the door, so they made me open it. I couldn't
believe my eyes as the door swung open...
It was the brown-haired girl that we had met down in the Game Room and
she had brought her blonde-headed friend. We all talked a while and she
explained how they got our information from the front desk and ended up
trying to call up here, but changed their mind and decided to come up
instead. But I could tell that Mike and Jake were past the Point of No
Return when it comes to being deathly afraid on DXM: Mike (who works in
construction) was on the bed face-down with a pillow over his head mumbling
how he wanted to go home.
The girls eventually went down to the Game Room to play some pool and
invited us down but we had to ditch them. Most everyone was too fucked up
to leave the room. Mike was begging Jeremy to take him along back into town
that night, but in the end he stayed and Jeremy left.
We tripped hard that night. Still in shock over the turn of events that
Mike so perfectly put: out of our control. We were on DXM and it seemed
that from the time Jake picked up those keys there was no control left.
We were at the mercy of what brought us here to begin with... fate.
I remember the next morning, Sunday, and abandoning the room and sneaking
out because of long distance calls we had made on the phone in the room and
just the overall feeling of being watched. It was like escaping from a
haunted house.. actually, that's exactly what it was.
I was the second-to-last one out. As I creeped down the spiral staircase,
I could hear the overture from Phantom of the Opera playing on the player
piano next to the bar. I never felt so good to get out of anyplace in my
entire life!
We got out alright. And that's all that mattered.
It was such a tremendous mindblowing, earthshattering experience that for
the next few days I'd just stare off into space and go into trances every
few minutes at just remembering what happened up there.
That weekend was not just an experience... it was an epic encounter of
pure terror in the eyes of DXM itself.
If you would like more info on Punderson Manor or its hauntings, please
write to me and I will be glad to pass along any info.
by various authors
Many people have reported interesting effects while smoking on DXM or the day
after a DXM trip. One user reported how he could bring the trip back after
smoking weed the day after a DXM trip. My friend Bob also reported being able
to bring the trip back after smoking just a regular cigarette the day after.
Many people have said that smoking on DXM is also a mindblowing experience,
and one person stated how just a single cigarette floored him during a DXM
trip.
Here is what three people had to say on the effects of smoking and DXM.
Loonus: Funny you mention it... I tripped two days ago on a high third
plateau dose and pretty much slept through yesterday but today noticed some
funny post-trip effects... smoking hand-rolled smokes, which I've always
thought of as having a higher concentration of nicotine (that might have
something to do with it), I noticed a strong (real strong) headrush and felt
like I was tripping again for about a minute...now I've smoked cigarettes
for about seven years and never felt like that before! Still, as I write,
every time I light up I get a real lightheaded feeling , not as strong as
before but definately not like the usual nicotine buzz... kinda strange...
as far as smoking cigarettes while on DXM....it sucks.
Hamish: I have done DXM once and it was ok. So i smoked some pot and wow,
it was awesome. Heaps better. I didn't feel as though i was really enjoying
the dxm until i had the pot, it brought it to a completely new level.
Timothy Clark: I've gotten to the point where I detest tripping on DXM
without smoking pot with it... It immediately brings down any nausea I might
possibly have, and it drives the high into the stratosphere. I especially
like smoking a fat joint around each of the peaks. Awesome experiences!
So there you have it. According to quite a few people, you haven't had a
really intense DXM trip until you at least smoke cannabis on it. And nicotine
the day after has been known to bring back the effects of the DXM. Be sure
to report your experiences with smoking and DXM!
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MATERIAL: Dextromethorphan hydrobromide monohydrate
FORMULA: C18H25NO-HBr-H2O
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ODOR: Slight
MELTING OR FREEZING POINT: 122 - 124 degrees C
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STABILITY: Stable
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by Gravol
On May 4, 1953, when Jim Morrison was nine years old, Aldus Huxley drank down
a glass of water containing mescaline crystals (mescaline is found in peyote).
For Huxley, it was like "...what Adam had seen on the morning of creation."
In the spring of the following year he published a small book about the
experiencce, The Doors of Perception. The title was borrowed from an obser-
vation of William Blake (18th-century poet): "If the doors of perception
were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite."
Huxley's book sold steadily to a new generation anxious to change the
mind set of the fifties. In the early 1960s Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert
of Harvard University began publishing their research into the effects of
psychedelic drugs. Within a year, LSD (lysergic acid diethylamid) from the
Swiss pharmaceutical company Sandoz, and from home labs on the East and West
coasts filtered onto college campuses. Before October 1968 possession and
ingestion of LSD might have been considered dangerous, but it was perfectly
legal almost everywhere in the United States. Jim Morrison had used the drug
early and often.
A close friend of Morrison's, January Jansen, states:
"I can honestly say that anytime we took drugs, he never went into it mad,
or out of an argument. They weren't used as an escape... they were used more
as a research vehicle, looking for something new, something different.
"I remember the time after we had the concert at The Hollywood Bowl (July
5, 1968) and then came back to an all-night ongoing party at the office.
After that we went across the street to the two rooms we had at the Alta
Cienega. And Jim said, "Did you bring what I asked?" I had.
"We emptied seventeen caps of mescaline sulfide needle crystals in one
pint of orange juice - one for me and one for him, and we got loaded. In fact,
three days later, we were still peaking. I was completely down off the stuff
until after 6 days later."
But more often than not, Morrison enjoyed LSD. He'd often eat it like
candy throughout the summer months in the mid and late 1960s.
One point I'm trying to make is that LSD created its own culture back in
the sixties - it was still legal, many people were taking it to go on
"psychedelic journeys" and it inspired such great artists as Morrison and
others of his time.
What many people don't realize is that DXM has its own culture here in
the 1990s and will someday probably be remembered like LSD in the 1960s.
After all, DXM is still legal, and people that don't know much about it
isn't going to interfere or even realize their is a culture - this lets
DXM use in itself grow very rapidly in small social groups of people, much
like acid did back then.
DXM is a still relatively new drug when it comes to experimentation and
research of its psychedelic effects. LSD is very old and studied, and most
of any LSD culture is thought of as the West, the late sixties, and psyche-
delic rock. LSD today has also come under a lot of scrutiny and you can't
have people walking around freely in social groups doing it without attract-
ing public attention. But with DXM you can because those who don't know about
it most likely will just laugh it off if they ever heard that you can "get
high off of cough syrup."
For those of you who think DXM is inferior to LSD, I beg to differ. You
just haven't given DXM enough time to prosper, and you obviously haven't
yet read of some of the great influences DXM has made on our culture - I
haven't even read of it yet, but I'm sure I will within 20 years. It's
impossible for the trend that DXM is causing not to make an influence
somewhere down the road. It's not like LSD became an overnight sensation
either.
Now, back to the doors of perception. I've taken both DXM and LSD before
at the same time and they seem to accent each other. On one particular
morning after a hefty DXM/LSD trip, I remember having a rebirth - from
that point on (or for at least that week) I understood things I never
thought comprehendible before. William Blake's words were so clear to me:
To see a world in a grain of sand
Or heaven in a wild flower
To hold infinity in the palm of your hand
Or eternity in an hour.
I could look at one thing and understand a universe of knowledge. I think it
is totally beyond words... you just have to feel what I mean. DXM had opened
up my doors of perception... I perceived infinity. The way the world truly
was. And I continued to understand long after the trip was over... that's
how I know it wasn't just another crazy drug-induced idea.
Perhaps drugs are the only way to make you understand this, but I believe
this concept of infinity is very true, with or without drugs in the world.
That's why drugs for me was a case of experimentation, not just an escape.
In closing, if it weren't for the early pioneers in the sixties with LSD
and the psychedelic culture, there may not be such a great interest in DXM
today as a psychedelic, and I believe DXM should be revered for more than
just something that gives you a buzz... it makes you see... it opens up
your eyes and lets you see the world as it truly is.
Metamorphose. An object is cut off from its name, habits, associations.
Detached, it becomes only one thing, in and of itself. When this dis-
integration into pure existance is at last achieved, the object is free
to become endlessly anything.
- Jim Morrison
by various authors
You lay spread out on the vast carpeted floor while the bright rays of the
afternoon sun come beating down on you. Your mind fries. Somewhere off in
the distance Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is playing in a chorus of your
thoughts, which are soon trampled down by insights of the universe, infinity
and a glimpse into your own insanity.
Many people feel LSD far outweights DXM because of trips like the one
above. But times are changing, and so are drugs. Would you rather have your
mind frying or at ease? You can't fully judge either drug until you've tried
them both and have had a good experience. To me, LSD is a great trip but I
wouldn't want to be on it as often as I am on DXM. For one thing, LSD has a
three day tolerance and you'd have to take twice as much to get off on it
during that time span. However, DXM you could take on a daily basis and trip
just as hard each time. That's only one example of how much the two drugs
differ.
Below is how four people feel about the comparison of DXM and LSD. Then
following that is an actual scientific comparison of the two drugs. Keep in
mind this is just their opinions and your actual experiences and feelings of
either drug may vary.
Tom: Would you rather sleep with a pillow or the window open? If your just
looking to get high and see shit DXM is fine; LSD is a lot more work mentally,
but can be far more rewarding. I'd rather throw up peyote and not get off than
barf and retch after drinking Robo and get off on it. Worse heaves than a
Singapore Sling/Peppermint Schnappes hangover.
Diamond: I think my favorite would definitely have to be DXM, while LSD
is a totally different and enlightening experience, its a whole different
type of trip. People keep saying DXM will make you see shit, but LSD is
what you should do to get a more "spiritual" experience. Either I am strange,
or these people have obviously not had a high 3rd or solid 4th plateau dose.
These have always been for me much more spiritual and enlightening than any
acid dose I've taken. Also, many people who say LSD is much better than DXM,
are the people who just don't like DXM because either 1) they still rule off
DXM as "Not a real drug", or 2) simply had a bad experience because they
drank syrup.
I started on syrup, and I know many people who are committed to taking
syrups, and they don't bother them. In my opinion, any serious DXM
psychonaut (I'm not even sure if I can consider myself totally one yet)
should order the pure powder, which makes several more advances above
LSD, with the unbelievably low prices and reduction of most or all of the
side effects of syrup or pills.
While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I think people should
give DXM more of a chance and maybe even start off with the pure powder,
because it will reap more rewards, and you will respect it much more when
you're not leaning over losing the syrup you just took to the porcelain god.
And TRUST me, at a high dose, DXM is far from "laughable effects" compared
to acid and shrooms. Its a much more powerful drug in many respects, and will
most likely (arguable, but in my opinion) give effects that will make LSD
look like a sissy drug if taken right.
Pepperdyne: Something interesting that most people don't realize is the
relative age of the user when they first venture to dabble in either variety
of hallucinogenics. LSD is something a majority of drug users take relatively
early in life, just due to it's innate ease of procurement, whereas DXM is
something that it usually takes a little while to find out about.
In my instance, I'd done LSD over a hundred times in a year, the same
year that I thought that Marilyn Manson was cool, was still scared of high
school, and did not have a driver's license. But I discovered DXM at the
end of my senior year, and continue to use it now, deep into college and
a stoic career in a highly rigid office environment. The point being that
it was so enlightening, to the confusion I was feeling upon graduating
high school, breaking up with a long-time girlfriend, and many failed
creative ventures, that it in the truest sense of the word changed my life.
I would rather pay for a DXM trip than take LSD for free...
Loonus: I think DXM needed somewhat of a "mature" or "seasoned" tripper
in a way....I personally, having a lot of experience with both acid and robo,
am glad that I didn't find out and mess around with DXM until I had plenty of
acid trips under my belt and I could handle a high third plateau DXM dose.
Just coincedence that it worked out that way, I suppose, but nonetheless
that's my opinion.
I purposely have not meant to be biased to DXM in the above posts, but those
are the only people who replied on Usenet to the original question, and trust
me, there were plenty of people in the newsgroup who preferred LSD, they just
should've spoken up.
And now for an actual comparison of LSD and DXM, in case you are not
familiar with one or both.
Methods of Ingestion. Both drugs are taken orally. While LSD has been
known to absorb through the skin, DXM on the other hand has to be swallowed.
Neither sniffing nor smoking really works for either drug, and injection is
an unnecessary route.
Principle Medical Uses. LSD was developed by Sandoz Laborities (the same
company that makes Triaminic and TheraFlu today) in the 1940s to help assist
in mental disorders, but was soon banned in nearly every country it was used
in. As of today, there are no medical uses for LSD. As far as DXM, in the
past five years, research, especially centered on NMDA receptors, has un-
covered more and more medical uses for DXM. Some of these include: diagnostic
uses (predicting lung cancer susceptibility, etc.); neuroprotectant uses
(prevention of brain damage resulting from excitotoxicity, as an anticon-
vulsant, etc.); for chronic pain (enhancing the painkilling ability of
opiates without adding to the side effects, etc.); for drug addiction
(prevents and even reverses tolerance to many drugs such as cocaine,
nicotine and alcohol, treatment of withdrawal symptoms of heroin, etc.);
for disease and miscellaneous conditions (treating shingles, herpes pain,
some chronic neurodegenerate diseases such as Lou Gehrig's Disease and
"Mad Cow" Disease, the treatment of mental retardation and Parkinson's
Disease, preventing tissue rejection in transplants, the possible treatment
of lung and other cancers, etc.). So as you can see, the medical benefits
of DXM far outweigh those of LSD.
Desired Effects. Both LSD and DXM desired effects include increased
sensory awareness, euphoria, altered perceptions, hallucinations, and
insightful experiences. However, since DXM is not only a hallucinogen
but also a dissociative, many people take it for its painkilling and
numbing effects, along with relaxation and to induce out-of-body exper-
iences (as discussed in the next issue).
Short-Term Side Effects. As far as both drugs are concerned they can cause
dilated pupils, nausea, emotional swings (more so with LSD), paranoia, jumbled
thought process (very hard to concentrate on DXM), impaired judgment, anxiety,
panic reaction and with DXM impaired vision, speech, and perception. Also with
DXM is sluggish motor coordination, hangover, drowsiness (though actual sleep
is difficult), and in some cases an itching sensation and constipation.
Overall. LSD also fits in with mescaline (peyote) and psilocybin
('shrooms). These are typical hallucinogens. DXM however is a morphine
analog and similar to other dissociatives like ketamine (Special K),
codeine, and even PCP. Like many people put it, it's like a combination
of being drunk (alcohol), stoned (cannabis), and tripping (LSD), though
the trip is much different and the intoxication is without the mental
confusion often accompanied with alcohol.
So there you have it, I hope this has helped you see a clear comparison
of the two drugs.
by DeeXMan
Ok so you want to know my experiences with DXM.
First off I'm 23, Been doing DXM for about a year and have done it over
120 times! I found out about it not over the Internet but from a friend Ethan.
We were talking about tripping and stuff and he said he tripped off of cough
syrup! At first I didn't believe him but he described it and he had never
lied to me before. I was also with a friend named Peter...we talked about
it a little and dropped the subject. Two weeks later we were going to get
acid but the guy never showed and we where next to the Supermarket so said
"What the Hell, lets try it. We remembered Ethan said he drank and 8oz bottle
of Robitussin DM. So we made sure we got this kind. We looked at the back and
it said: Active Ingredients - Dextromethorphan HBr and Guaifenesin. So we
thought Dextromethorphan...DXM...it sounds right so we brought two bottles
and went home.
All excited we were gonna trip on somethong new we opened up the bottles
and took a gulp.
UUUUGGGGGGGG! How can someone drink this??? So then foolishly we mixed it
with tons of sugar and coke. That made it worse. Well I drank the whole
thing and my friend drank about 3/4. We felt some of the effects right after
drinking it but not much. About an hour past and I really felt good...my
friend was upset and tired of waiting fell asleep though (his weight was
180 pounds while I weighed 130 plus I drank 1/4 more than him).
In the morning I told him about my experience and he didn't believe me
so later on that day we brough two more bottles and this time he and I drank
the whole thing. Well then he believed me. We drank bottles for a couple of
weeks (once every friday) until we (or should I say I) found Drixoral Cough
Caps (no longer available). He was scared to take them even after I showed
him the active ingredient Dextromethorphan HrB. He being stubborn decided
to look it up on the Internet and we found William White's super, excellent,
and well-done DXM FAQ (http://www.frognet.net/dxm). We found out about plat-
eaus and dosage amounts and which different kinds of syrups we could buy.
It was really cool.
So we did DXM for months doing only drixorals and sometimes both. We
usually took 20 drixorals. Later on he started to take on 8oz bottle of Robo
Max and 10 drixorals while I took the same but 5 drixorals less.
One day he convienced me to take the same dosage as he BIG MISTAKE! I had
a 4th plateau trip and the most terrifying experience of my life . I literary
thought I was gonna die. But that didn't scare me 'cause a week later I did
it again. That same day we discovered "Floating!"
What's floating you say? Only the coolest thing to do while on DXM. Ok
I'll explain: We where listening to music and fooling around with his strobe
light he pointed it at me to bug me and I closed my eyes to ignore him. It
was all colorful and I though cool...but nothing new (it happens with acid
and cannabis). Well I sat there with my eyes closed and I started to see the
colors going to the music then all of a sudden I felt like I wasin with the
colors and felt like i was floating through psychedelic worlds of happiness
totally disconnected from the outside world about a minute into it I stood
up and yelled "Cool!"
Curiously my friend said "what," so I told him he tried it and it worked
for him too. That night we spent the whole night floating and floated on
every trip from there on. It rules. If you want to try this get a strobe
light (if you don't have one download this program Flasher. It turns your
computer into a strobe light. Listen to some fast cool music, turn off all
the lights (except the stobe), and sit or lie down so its no more than 4
feet from your eyes and close your eyes! You'll float to the music!
I had one more bad experience...I drank one 8oz bottle of Robo Max and
decided to take the Drixorals later on...Again bad mistake. I took 15
Drixorals 'cause I forgot the amount I took earlier so it totalled 1311 mg
of DXM. About ten minutes afterward we got some weed from a kid i'll call
Robbie. Well we smoked about 6 bowls. When I got up everything looked like
daytime for about 5 seconds. It was about 1am and we where outside but it
looked like 12noon. Well that scared me and then I went to walk foward but
started walking sideways...I was fucked up. It was like my brain was sending
my body wrong messages. When I talked I stuttered a lot. For some reason I
yelled out that the weed was laced with heroin and that I was gonna kill
Robbie. My friend tried to calm me down but it didn't work. We went inside
and my friend lied me down (he picked me up and carried me inside cause I
couln't walk correctly). When I lied down I felt my heart beating at about
180 beats per minute...I don't know if it was that fast but it sure felt
that way! My life flashed before my eyes and I thought what it would be
like to die. It was the most terrible and most helpless felling of my life.
That night was the worst of my life. After that I didn't do DXM for about 2
months until my friend convinced me to do it again. We did it again and it was fun and we still do it (once every Friday). I
am a lot more responsible though. The best trip was when I took 1 8oz bottle,
took 5 tabs of acid, drank a cup of shroom juice and smoked 5 bowls. Well I
can't expain it in words alone all i have to say it was the best feeling of
my life. Also we almost all the times we tripped did a ballon of Nitrous
Oxide...it rules. Try it but be careful.
Well thats it kiddies, I can't type all my experiences 'cause my fingers
will fall off. If you have any coments, suggestions, experiences, or anything
else you want to share just e-mail me at [email protected].
by Gravol
Many people have expressed interest on poetry and other writings while
composed on DXM, so I have included in this article a sample of stanzes
I composed throughout one week of heavy DXM use. If you have any writings
or poems, please send them along - I'll be including the work of other
DXMers in future articles - this is just to start out this section of the
zine and provide an example to go on.
Please note that I was heavily intoxicated on a mild dose (400-600 mg)
of DXM when I wrote these, and concentration on anything at that point is
extremely difficult.
Sunlight fields aglow
Flowers in bloom,
Crystal rivers flow.
The Mind wanders from afar
Guided by a waning star.
This is now and it is true
By afternoon's light I'll spend with you.
Beneath a great oak upon a hill
Until all is quiet, all is still.
We'll watch the sun dash down
Deep beneath the clouds
Leaving a trail of brazen beauty
Across the sky, for you and I,
Until tomorrow is found.
...
Insanity wreaks her golden cloud
Over all the world, like a shroud.
You sink down deep within
Ever present faces grin.
...
We swam under golden moonlight
Caressing the soft beast beneath us.
Rippling tides, the tears you hide
Washed away in the night.
...
So aimlessly showering
The heavens overpowering
Rain falls upon us from high above
I've never had a greater love.
...
As twilight grows dim
And stars come to shine
You find yourself thinking of him
Much like a crime.
...
What if it were to snow in Mexico?
Upon the fields, up high and low.
Leaving a white blanket of chill
Frozen delight, to let people know
That Winter's not forgotten you
Nor has it changed avenues.
It grows, encompassing a town so small
So much tonight, a star must fall.
And when it does, what will take hold?
A triumph so great, a night so cold.
And when we gaze upon that sky
So many generations will wonder why,
Why did it ever snow in Mexico?
That is something we will never know.
by William White
There are, I think, four factors which have combined to keep DXM out of the
public eye and limited to subcultures:
1. Only about one-third of people who try DXM enjoy the experience enough
to repeat it.
2. The public is unaware of DXM, and most people are skeptical of the idea
of getting high off cough syrup.
3. Many people who traditionally use DXM do not, in general, discuss their
use outside of their social group or clique.
4. Medical authorities are either ignorant of DXM or unwilling to discuss
it, either professionally or with the general public.
As a consequence, when someone uses DXM and does enjoy it, and tells his or
her friends, many will dismiss the idea, and among those who try it, most
won't repeat the experience. In tightly-knit social groups, both clusters
of friends and larger subcultures, DXM use may expand to saturate the group
(and involve from 30% to 60% of the group, as near as I can tell with my
limited data). However, members outside of these cliques and groups do not
typically hear about DXM, or if they do, they aren't willing to try it on
the suggestion of someone who is obviously outside the social norm.
As far as the silence of medical authorities goes, my hunch is that at
some point (probably when Romilar became popular as a recreational drug)
the medical authorities and manufacturers of DXM-based preparations
realized that they had two choices: take DXM off the market, or convince
people they couldn't get high off of it. They took the latter approach,
getting rid of DXM-only pills and leaving cough medicines in which DXM
was combined with other ingredients. The majority of users decided it
wasn't worth the effort gulping down cough syrup (and possibly vomiting
due to guaifenesin), and the public remained ignorant.
I believe a sort of threshold has been passed in that DXM use has now
entered the mainstream of drug users. I suspect its use will continue to
rise until either it is taken off the market, or it reaches a natural
plateau. DXM is not, in my opinion, addictive enough to explode into
popularity like cocaine, amphetamines, and heroin; instead, I suspect
that, like most psychedelics, it will be popular among a limited number
of people who will use it for a year or two and then stop. Fortunately
DXM use does seem to be self-limiting, as the pleasurable aspects of its
use decline and annoying but harmless side effects increase with time.
I don't think DXM will be taken off the market entirely; instead, it
will probably be restricted to preparations containing other ingredients.
My guess is that guaifenesin will be used, since it induces nausea with
overdose. There will still be DXM enthusiasts willing to tough out the
nausea, but most people, I think, will be unwilling to repeat the experience
and unwilling to suggest it to others. The worst possible response, in my
opinion, would be to add acetaminophen; while it would stop DXM use, it may
do so at the expense of numerous deaths.
My greatest fear is that some "pop news" show will become aware of DXM
and decide to do a feature on it. I have no desire to bring awareness of
DXM to the overall public; I suspect that teenagers across the country,
looking for a cheap buzz, would rush down to their nearest drugstore, buy
a bottle of cough syrup, and take it without adequate knowledge of dosage,
drug interactions, or side effects. DXM would probably be pulled from the
market, and people with an actual need for it would be worse off. While
many DXM users would of course stop using it, some would probably turn to
ketamine or (even worse) PCP, attempt to find DXM "on the street," or find
worse drugs to use.
If you really want to limit the use of DXM, the best response would be
to consider those who are using it casually. Serious psychonauts are not,
in general, using DXM on a regular basis, or if they are, they are at least
aware of the risks. However, many young people who use DXM are simply looking
for a cheap high. There are very few drugs which provide a cheap high and
carry a low risk; the safest among these is marijuana. And more than one
young person has told me they have used DXM because marijuana is illegal.
You can draw your own conclusions.
by Anonymous
I had just gotten off the phone with a fellow who had mentioned that his
friend got bromide poisoning from taking too much DXM. I didn't think too
much of it, just how it'd probably never happen to me, and I downed a hefty
amount of DXM.
Soon, about the time the DXM effects were kicking in, I noticed a very
uncomfortable feeling in and near my stomach - soon I became very "out of
it" and fever-like. I began having to spit up this foamy substance - filled
the bottom of a shoebox with it. Very disgusting. I lapsed in and out of
reality and could not even sit up - not because of the dissociative effects
of the DXM, but because of the feeling in my stomach. I thought for sure I
was going to die. Hours passed and I remained in a fetal position clutching
myself, but when I'd look at the clock I would go into shock at just finding
only 2 minutes had passed. I hardly even noticed the effects of the DXM.
At first when everything was kicking in I had closed my eyes and got the
most intense visuals of my life. Everything was composed of little blue dots
that swam in motion. But soon I paid little attention to the mindblowing
things I was seeing with my eyes closed.
By the end of the night - literally hours later - the effects began to
subside and I could once again stand up, though my stomach still felt very
sick. This had been at least my 5th second plateau trip in as many days and
I suspected bromide poisoning, but couldn't be sure. Since the form most
people take is Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide, it is obviously possible to
ingest too much bromide apart from the actual DXM - common sense told me
this, so I looked in William White's FAQ and it said this:
Although some authors have suggested the possibility of DXM-induced bromism,
actual blood tests have revealed little danger to occasional users, even with
large doses of DXM. Daily use might lead to a dangerous buildup. Notable
symptoms of bromide poisoning include headache, irritation, slurred speech,
psychosis, weight loss, hallucinations, and an acne-like rash. Bromism can
cause irreversible brain damage.
I'm not completely positive it was even bromide poisoning, but I figured it
is a viable threat so that's why I'm still warning you about it.
I waited 2 days later before I tripped DXM again. In fact, I was tripping
every other day without any serious effects until recently, when I again
began spitting up stomach content (it seemed like my gag reflex was screwed
up because it was hard to actually vomit) - the best I can describe it is
the stuff from your stomach slowly oozing up your esophagus and having no
choice but to keep spitting it out. Perhaps I've reached my limit for the
positive experiences of DXM, so I'm going to wait at least a week before
trying it again. Has anyone had any similar experiences?
by Buzzed
A friend of a friend tells me this works pretty damn well! This method is
also known as the Agent Lemon extraction method.
DXM EXTRACTION
The Materials:
1. Dextromethorphan containing cough syrup. DO NOT get any that contains
active ingredients such as Guaifenesin or acetaminophen, only get the
kind that has DXM and alcohol in it. At the levels you'll be drinking
those items could be fatal! Get two 4 oz. bottles.
2. Ordinary Household ammmonia (clear, not lemon or some other scent).
3. Lighter Fluid ("Red Devil", "Zippo", or "Ronsonal" are good ones. Be
sure to test different brands to be sure they're ok to use. Take a
small drop and let it evaporate from a glass plate or mirrorand be
sure it evaporates with no residue.
4. Citric Acid (lemon juice workes fine).
Equipment:
Some containers and flexible rubber tubing to use as a siphon. Fish
tank hose is fine...
Concept:
Prepare ahead of time a solution of the citric acid in water. For two
bottles of syrup (4 oz each) use 3 tablespoons of lemon juice in 8 fluid
ounces of water.
Add ammonia to DXM. DXM converts from hydrobromide salt to freebase
and precipitates out of water. Since it's now nonpolar it wants to go
into a non polar solvent. Now you add a nonpolar solvent and shake hard.
Free base goes into solution in solvent. Let the solvent float to the top
(it doesn't mix with water). Physically separate the layers. Now the DXM
is in the nonpolar layer, mix that with the acid and shake well. The DXM
converts back into the acid salt (since lemon juice has citric acid in it,
it makes DXM hydrocitrate). This is cool because the DXM is practically
pulled across the oil-water interface by the hydrogen ion gradient Now
you throw out the oil layer, and the DXM is now acid salt in the lemon
juice. Boil it for a few minutes on the stove or in the microwave, stir
it good, so any volatile solvent that remains will evaporate.
You are left with "Agent Lemon" or "DXemon juice", A highly concentrated
product, which is superior to cough syrup -- if you really wanted to, you
could probably boil away the water -- with no danger, since the amount of
solvent is almost nothing, and get a crystaline product that might be cut
with anhydrous citric acid.
Step-by-step:
1. Put 2 (4 oz.) bottles of cough syrup in a jar with a good water tight
lid (a mason jar or something).
2. Pour in a lot of ammonia. Excess is not a serious problem. An ammount
of ammonia about equal to the syrup volume or more is good.
3. Stir.
4. Add about a 1/2 inch thick layer of lighter fluid on top of the ammonia
cough syrup mixture.
5. Seal it up and shake the hell out of it. At least five minutes or so.
6. Let the organic solvent layer separate, it will float to the top of the
water (the lighter fluid now contains the dxm).
7. Use a siphon to separate the layers. Fill the siphon (your flexible
rubber tube) with water, and while pluging one end with your finger
plunge the other end into the water/ammonia layer (the pink junk under
the lighter fluid).
8. Hold the free end of the siphon below the other end of the siphon, and
let go of the end. Let the liquid drain into a jar. Throw the pink
watery/ammonia crap out.
9. If you want to minimize the amount of water-ammonia-cough syrup inactive
ingredients, add more water to the lighter fluid, shake it up again,
let it separate and siphon again. You can do it three or four times to
be sure you get all the ammonia out. When done you should only have the
solvent layer left.
10. Now mix the solvent layer with the citric acid solution (lemon juice).
11. Shake the hell out of it for 5 minutes or so.
12. After that, let it settle. It takes a few minutes to separate. Wait.
13. Next stage. Use the siphon again, Be a little conservative and don't
let any solvent get into the siphon, so leave a little water layer below
the lighter fluid. Toss the lighter fluid out and save the lemon juice
portion (it now contains the DXM).
14. Boil the lemon juice (on an electric stove or burner) on low heat for a
while, the theory is that if there's a little bit of solvent there,
it will boil away.
15. Transfer to a snapple jar or something equivelent and refridgerate it
to help it cool off. Once cooled off, drink it! It tastes bitter as hell
so (dxm is bitter tasting) you may want to boil as much of the water
away as possible so you won't have to drink so much of it. Maybe even
add some sugar to it or something.
Effects:
Expect to start to feel the effects about an hour after drinking it. After
about hour two, you're gonna be buzzin big time! Effects last about 6 to 8
hours...
by William White
Since I've started listening for comments on the FAQ, I've received five
negative comments out of about 820 (at last count) total, for a percentage
of about 0.6%. Recently I got my fifth negative comment from someone who
indicated the comment could be made public (oh goodie!) but didn't offer
any return address so I could respond to him/her. So, instead, I've chosen
to present the original comments and my arrogant, flaming, self-righteous
response.
Here is the original feedback:
Thursday, September 25, 1997
>From Parent of the 60s
You sound like a bright person except your thinking is very narrow. My 15-
year-old son researched this drug via your FAQs and was so intrigued he
thought he'd try it. Did you forget that children have access to this
information? I don't believe all the garbage about using psychedelics to
expand one's mind. Psychedelics are used to escape from reality, period.
You're deluding yourself and others if you state otherwise. I find it very
sad that you can't bear to face your reality without the mask of drugs. Your
mind and this world is an incredible experience without distorting it.
I'm very angry that you use the Internet to push your ideas to vulnerable
youth. That expression "friend's don't let friends drive drunk" applies here.
What you do to your body is your business. Your "well-meaning" FAQs only
serve to bolster your own delusions. Get some professional help and stay out
of peoples' lives. To be responsible for even one death is horrendous. How
do you sleep at night? I know how...you probably drug yourself into a mind-
expanding stupor.
And here is my response:
Uh oh. Why is it always the so-called "parents of the 60's" who are so
against drugs? Let me emphasize the so-called part. The influencial people
of the 60's, the ones who actually started the movement rather than just
jumping on the bandwagon because it was the cool thing to do, seemed to have
a different opinion about drugs than this particular individual does. Abbie
Hoffman, in Steal This Urine Test, for example, points out that the chief
error in drug use in the 60's was letting bad drugs (speed, heroin) drive
out the good (psychedelics, marijuana), and offers "no regrets" for the drug
use of the 60's.
Yes, narrow thinking would certainly explain my interests in neuroscience,
Martial arts, Zen, religious philosophy, existentialism, Western European
Medieval history, electronics, computer science, pure mathematics, and what-
ever else I decide to study tomorrow.
I suppose it didn't occur to you that your son could have just as easily
found any of the plethora of other DXM and psychedelic websites out there?
Or from his friends, or whatever...Don't get me wrong, I said plainly and
clearly in the FAQ, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, kids shouldn't
do drugs, they just don't have the life skills or the experience to handle them
or get the most benefit from them, psychedelics especially. And I'm sorry your
son decided to reject my advice on that subject. But I'd still rather have a
thousand people doing DXM safely than one person drinking a bottle of Nyquil
and ending up dead.
Believe me, if someone came up with a method of keeping kids out of my neck
of the woods, I'd be all the happier. Besides, ever been to that big building
with all the books in it (you know, it's called a library)? If you look you'll
find all sorts of books on how to burn down buildings, make pipe bombs, over-
dose on over-the-counter drugs, and the like. The Internet is not a play-
ground, it's a forum which was intended for the use of mature adults, and I'm
one of those who thinks kids have no business being online without either
parental guidance or the skills to interpret what they find.
I also never claimed DXM would expand your mind. It can have a variety of
effects, some recreationally enjoyable, some enlightening, some eerie, some
downright unpleasant. I try to present the entire picture, point out all the
range of experiences DXM users have. I don't believe in showing only the
negative about drugs, kids are too smart for that.
And as far as reported DXM use goes, the only drugs I've taken in the past
year or so consist of caffeine, nicotine (ick), and a beer or two about once
a month or less.
No, you don't need drugs to have an enlightening experience, you can get
the same effect from years of meditation. And you never get something for
nothing; all drugs take with one hand as they give with another. But if you
understand this tradeoff, they can open the door to worlds of detail, thought,
philosophy, etc., that you never noticed before. Once the door is open, it's
your responsibility to go through - without drugs, I might add - to see what's
in there.
And I suppose you'd like to bring up that using drugs is a lot different
from rock climbing. Well, sorry, it's not. Both involve taking risk to life
and limb for a chemical reward and the subsequent changes in outlook and
understanding they might provide. Personally I think rock climbing is a bit
better, since it's likely to get you some exercise (Lord knows we need it in
this country), but you get my point.
As far as being responsible for deaths, last time I checked the only
published deaths from DXM consisted of two, both before the FAQ came out.
One was an intentional suicide. If you know differently I'd love to hear
about it. But in the mean time you might want to consider the very real
risk of death that comes from using DXM without adequate knowledge or
preparation, from a variety of mechanisms including acetaminophen overdose,
drug interaction, and simply not knowing how much to take.
At least I have the balls to admit I'm just ranting here and not trying
to present a coherent argument (not like I'd ever change your mind, and if
that's all you can muster in the way of an argument you're not likely to
change mine either). No, I sleep quite well, thank you very much, and yes,
it does worry me that in taking on a responsibility to tell the whole story
about DXM someone may get hurt. But the other alternatives I had would have
left me feeling like dogshit.
So that's my rant for the day. See, I don't really mind when people offer
constructive criticism, and I don't even mind when people try to present a
rational, well-thought-out argument about why the FAQ is, or might be, having
a negative effect on society. Yes, it has brought DXM out of the darkness
where people can see it, but since when has keeping anything in the darkness
ever helped society? If anyone has used DXM because of the FAQ and gotten in
trouble, then I am truly sorry, but I've tried to make it quite clear that
DXM is not a happy-go-lucky flowers and dancing bears drug, it's a powerful
dissociative which can really fuck you up if you aren't careful...
by various authors
Ahhh... the nasty taste of cough syrup. Some people gag at just the mere
thought of four ounces of thick red gooey syrup oozing down their throat.
Listed below are some tips at how a few people handle taking syrup.
Rhoda Taylor: Try putting some in a big mug of coffee... it makes the
coffee barely bareable but much better than straight cough syrup. It works,
I happen to be drinking some as I write this, and the coffee doesn't taste
nearly as bad now as it did when I started. This is my third time doing DXM
and I think I could get to like this...
Mad Hatter: I always take it one shot at a time, swallowing the shot
before it hits my tongue, and washing it down with a bunch of lemonade. No
problem whatsoever.
Jaime Coplan: First, take a sip of water. Be sure, no matter what you do,
not to smell the cough syrup...it'll make you want to gag! Then , take about
5-6 fast, deep breaths then plug your nose and drink all of the cough syrup
without unplugging your nose. Immediately drink the remaining water in the
glass. Then drink 2 more full glasses. Now, with your nose still plugged,
coat all of your mouth with toothpaste and then exhale slowly through your
mouth and nose. Minty fresh!
Hope this helps some of you. It sure beats swallowing Coricidin pills in my
book anyday! :)
from compiled information
Currently, there are many DXM suppliers that will ship to private individuals.
They do not condone recreational use and will only ship for research purposes.
Listed below is some basic information on them taken off the Internet. For a
more precise review of these suppliers, see Issue 1.
Wanman Enterprises:
Prices
50g......$100
100g.....$180
200g.....$325
500g.....$650
1Kg.....$1000
All prices include shipping and handling.
Shipping
Will only ship to the US, Canada, and England. I ship all orders within 24
hours (Sundays excluded). USPS Priority Mail (2-3 day).
Address
WANMAN Enterprises
7620 Vance Rd.
Kernersville, NC 27284
Please send money-orders or certified checks. Please enclose a letter stating
that you want x grams of DXM.
Internet
Contact [email protected] for more information.
Sunset PH:
Prices
15g..........$45
30g..........$75
50g..........$99
The price includes shipping within the US only.
Shipping
We accept international orders by payment of an international money order
only. International orders must add US$5 additional for shipping.
Address
SUNSET PH.
PO Box 180684
Austin, TX 78718-0684
USA
Please send us an email with your address before you send your money so we
can have your order prepared beforehand.
Internet
Contact [email protected] for more information.
Biogenesis Laboratories:
Prices
10g..........$60.00
50g..........$90.00
100g........$160.00
200g........$300.00
Forms of payment accepted (in most currencies): cash (not recommended), bank
draft, postal order, IMO, SWIFT transfer, Western Union, Mastercard, Visa,
American Express and Diners Club. All prices include airmail delivery to
anywhere in the world.
Biogenesis also sells ketamine HCl:
10g..........$235.00
This includes postage. For legitimate researchers only. May be illegal to
purchase if you live in the United States...please check state laws.
Shipping
No information known.
Address
Biogenesis Laboratories
PO Box 1329
Sedgefield
6573
South Africa
Fax: 27-44-883-1007
Internet
Visit their web site at http://www.pix.za/biogenesis/. Orders can be emailed
to [email protected].
Chemical Resale of Santa Barbara:
Prices
Check their web site for their current prices, since they tend to change
from time to time.
Shipping
No information known.
Address
Chemical Resale of Santa Barbara
6 Harbor Way Suite #171
Santa Barbara, CA 93109-2353
Internet
Visit CRSB's site at http://www.sb.net/wirehead. Orders can also be emailed
to [email protected].
by Gravol, Jason Rudolf
Gravol wrote:
Here are some of the more mainstream groups. I enjoy these every bit as
much as I enjoy techno on DXM.
Group: Beastie Boys
Album: Paul's Boutique
Info: This is the only rap I can stand. Very good album, the music tends to
fuck with your head while tripping...just the way I like it.
Group: Beastie Boys
Album: Some Old Bullshit
Info: Has some good takes - Egg Raid On Mojo, Cooky Puss, and Beastie
Revolution - a nice change from mainstream Beastie Boys. Includes some
harder rap than usual for them.
Group: The Beatles
Album: Abbey Road
Info: The best Beatles album. I wasn't much of a Beatles fan 'til I heard
this album. After Octopus's Garden the whole album begins to get a little
far out, and by the end of I Want You (She's So Heavy) I nearly have an out-
of-body experience every time I listen to it - truly what I call a mental/
full-body orgasm!
Group: The Beatles
Album: Let It Be
Info: Also a great Beatles album - includes Across The Universe, Let It Be,
and I Me Mine - sounds superb on DXM!
Group: The Doors
Album: Box Set
Info: A brand new release, lots of previously unreleased Doors stuff...
wide variety (even includes some classical)...not what you'd expect the
Doors to sound like, but very soothing to the senses. Morrison's poetry
is phenomenal, and in this box set you get a heaping helping of it.
Group: Jimi Hendrix
Album: The Cry Of Love
Info: Nice Hendrix album...includes a lot of the less popular pieces...I
know listening to some of the same popular stuff over and over can get
annoying, so if you like Hendrix and are looking for something new, try
this.
Group: Jimi Hendrix
Album: Electric Ladyland
Info: I've heard many good reviews of this as a tripping album, and had the
same positive experience when I listened to it. It flows more like an album
than just a collection of hits. Very good album.
Group: Kraftwerk
Album: The Mix
Info: My favorite Kraftwerk album. The music and sounds have a very soothing
effect...it's more than just electronic sounds...actually has music and some
robot-like voices singing.
Group: Led Zeppelin
Album: Led Zeppelin 1
Info: Their original album, but still very good. Zeppelin is neither the
best nor the worst to listen to on DXM, but their older stuff is the best
to trip out to, especially Dazed And Confused and How Many More Times.
Group: Led Zeppelin
Album: Physical Graffiti
Info: An OK album, the first side is the best. Once again a good album to
trip to if you like classick rock. Includes Kashmir. I've heard the No
Quarter album is also good to listen to.
Group: Pink Floyd
Album: Relics
Info: Very old, classic Pink Floyd. Not like their new stuff...I like this
better, though the stuff from the 70's was their best. Interstellar Overdrive
and Careful With That Axe, Eugene are great to trip to on this album.
Group: Pink Floyd
Album: The Wall
Info: An all-around good album to trip to. You might enjoy the movie version
more, though. This is also pretty long and can be slow at times, but it keeps
a constant theme and attempts to tell a story...maybe better for LSD, since
things can be very easily forgotten on DXM.
My other favorites include Scott Joplin (ragtime piano), lots of classical,
Pink Floyd's epic songs Echoes and Atom Heart Mother Suite, John Lennon's
Imagine, and Neil Young.
Look for more reviews in the next issue. I'll try ot hit on the rock scene,
while ZMalloc reviews mostly techno/ambient stuff. If you'd like to con-
tribute to these reviews, please let me know.
Please look for ZMalloc's reviews in the next issue. Sitting in for him in
this issue is Jason Rudolf and his review on Muslimgauze.
Rudolf is the artist of the cult book Waterlight and has an upcoming CD
called Narcolepsy in Town Square soon to debut. For a complete Muslimgauze
review check out Jason's book Mirror & Hammer Works Book 1, and for more
info try http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/3897 on the World Wide
Web. And now for the review:
When one country invades another, it is usually punished. However, according
to the band Muslimgauze, Israel has gotten away with a breach of every human
rights there is and is continuing to do so. After every significant political
event usually caused by Israel Muslimgauze responds. Muslimgauze's intentions
are to clearly convey outrage over injustice, and to get others to examine
what is going on in the Middle East through the medium of their music and
political cover art.
The main solo musician behind the ethno ambient, experimental band
Muslimgauze is Bryn Jones. His decision to make music came from the Israel
invasion of Lebanon, Gaza, and the annexation of the Golan Heights in 1982.
He has since then released some 40 albums. When asked if Jones is a Muslim,
he responded, "I'm non religious. It just brings so much trouble. If other
people believe then it's up to them, but it's not for me. You don't have to
be a Muslim to appreciate their situation." Jones resides in Manchester,
England, and has never been to the Middle East. He claims that he can't
visit an occupied land until it is free. Looking at the totality of what
Israel has done, Muslimgauze expresses complete animosity toward the state
of Israel and its people. The future state of the Islamic world should be
Palestines' freedom restored with Jerusalem as the capital. He also sees a
complete displacement of the entire state of Israel. "The sooner the better.
Hamas and Islamic Jihad have taken Israel on while the P.L.O. talks. They are
funded by most Arab states I should think. Most certainly Syria and Iran."
There is an early CD entitled The United States of Islam. This seems to hint
at a common unified Arab-Asian military alliance against the West. Whether
something like this will ever happen is unlikely since they all have their
own political interests. Muslimgauze doesn't see this alliance as likely or
the conflict in Palestine as being resolved any time soon. They plan on
continuing to make music until it is.
The name Muslimgauze refers to the hijab Muslim women wear. The overall
sound of Muslimgauze is a very rhythmic, hypnotic ambience. Quite often
traditional Middle Eastern performers and Arabic voices are accompanying
the music. As always, Muslimgauze recordings are inspired by significant
political events in the Middle East. Muslimgauze's experimental music is
hard to identify with just a single track and must be taken in as a whole.
Small doses of Muslimgauze can be very effective, but its not very likely
to hear many single tracks that work well on the radio. Other than Middle
Eastern themes Muslimgauze is completely isolated from the musical world.
They have been influential to many musicians, but they don't listen to other
peoples' music. It is almost impossible to review the band's music and not
respond to the powerful pro-Palestinian covers.
The following are some of the albums that I would recommend to those not
familiar with Muslimgauze.
Iran: Iran, which is Muslimgauze's first CD, was influenced by the politics
of Palestine, Afghanistan, and Iran. Where as his new work seems much more
dedicated to extremist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Not surpris-
ing, since this is a very dated CD I haven't been able to find any reviews on
it. There is quite a bit of text inside, but unfortunately it's all in German,
however it does have some impressive photographs. The first two tracks seem
most menacing with an incessant drumming fading in and out. The third track
Intifadah is a mysteriously gorgeous piece. There seems to be four versions
within the same song, ending finally with very natural elements. In regards
to the Hussein regime's stance toward Iran, Muslimgauze had this to say: "I
support Iran, so when he (Hussein) attacked Iran I was hoping he would get
beat. But the West gave him arms so that he could beat Iran which he didn't
do and he came back to haunt them."
Salaam Alekum Bastard: Some people I talked to agree that this is one of
the best Muslimgauze releases. The songs are more distinct, but flow together.
A pretty violent release over all. There is also a shortened version of the
Hebron Massacre that is a pretty intense buildup of agression. However, if
it is able to be found, I would recommend checking out the Hebron Massacre
CD.
Zul'm: This CD is possibly a high point in Muslimgauze's career. I find
this innovating CD very ethnic-sounding, almost as if many of these tracks
are traditional Middle Eastern themes. Perhaps part of the reason is the
guest musicians Said Nasser on Arabic percussion and vocals and Zorawar
Singh on Indian percussion and vocals. Also there are additional keyboards
by Mark Lawrence, which gives this release an even higher trance-type sound.
What is really nice about certain songs is that it's hard to tell where the
traditional music ends and where the Western music begins. "Zul'm" is derived
from the name "Zulkifl," the Muslim prophet whose name means fate. This CD
was dedicated to Palestinians killed in Kuwait.
Infidel: This hypnotic release broadens Muslimgauze's audience. This is a
very appealing remix CD that originally captivated my interest in Muslimgauze.
A great jumping-on point for those who are interested in the techno-industrial
scene. There are some incredible danceable remixes that maintain the feel of
the original song. Five of the remixes are of Infidel from the album Citadel.
Fakir is a stripped-down version, that originally appeared on Zul'm and Salaam
Meca is a previously unreleased track from Intifaxa. And the CD ends with a
totally mellowing track called Intifaxa.
There are a few other CDs worth mentioning as being highly recommended:
Hebron Massacre (limited to 2000 copies), Vote Hezbollah, Occupied
Territories, and Drugsherpa.
These are most of the Muslimgauze CDs that I have heard enough about to
recommend. Muslimgauze is an incredibly fascinating band that is made even
more interesting by their strong support for groups like Hamas, Hezbollah,
and the Islamic Jihad. Palestinians have had everything taken from them.
These groups are nationalists of a nation that does not yet exist. These
people are striving to be in control of their own lives. Muslimgauze helps
bring information forward about their struggle.
- Jason Rudolf
I hope you have enjoyed these reviews as much as I have; in the next issue
we will also be including films that are fun to watch on DXM. Until then...
from The Physicians' Desk Reference for Non-Prescription Drugs
Note: Acetaminophen is very deadly. DXM products which contain this substance
can kill very easily. The original list contained products containing Aceta-
minophen but in order to shorten the list we have taken those products out
and included all other DXM-containing products.
Included below are 47 non-prescription medications containing various forms
of DXM. Listed are the active ingredients, any relative notes or cautions,
and a rating of the medication. Ratings are based on the amount of DXM in
the medication and if any harmful ingredients are available. Ratings range
from one * to 4 *'s, with no *'s being the worst rating; if something is
rated with no *'s, you should avoid taking it, probably because of the
presence of Acetaminophen in the medication or very low amounts of DXM.
1. Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold & Cough Medicine
by Miles Consumer
Active Ingredients (per tablet): Aspirin 325mg,
Chlorpheniramine Maleate 2mg, Phenylpropanolamine
Bitartrate 20mg, DXM HBr 10mg.
Notes: In water the aspirin is converted into its
soluble ionic form, sodium acetylsalicylate.
Rating: *
2. Alka-Seltzer Plus Night-Time Cold Medicine
by Miles Consumer
Active Ingredients (per tablet): Aspirin 500mg,
Doxylamine Succinate 6.25mg, Phenylpropanolamine
Bitartrate 20mg, DXM HBr 15mg.
Notes: In water the aspirin is converted into its
soluble ionic form, sodium acetylsalicylate.
Doxylamine Succinate is an antihistamine.
Rating: **
3. Benylin Adult Formula Cough Suppressant
by WARNER WELLCOME
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 15mg.
Rating: **
4. Benylin Expectorant
by WARNER WELLCOME
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 5mg,
Guaifenesin 100mg.
Notes: Guaifenesin may cause nausea in high doses.
Rating: *
5. Benylin Multisymptom
by WARNER WELLCOME
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 5mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 15mg, Guaifenesin 100mg.
Rating: *
6. Benylin Pediatric Cough Suppressant
by WARNER WELLCOME
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 7.5mg.
Rating: *
7. Buckley's Mixture
by W.K. Buckley
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 12.5mg
in a sugar-free base.
Rating: **
8. Cerose DM
by Wyeth-Ayerst
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 15mg,
Chlorpheniramine Maleate 4mg, Phenylephrine HCl 10mg,
Alcohol 2.4%.
Rating: **
9. Cheracol-D Cough Formula
by Roberts
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 10mg,
Guaifenesin 100mg, Alcohol 4.75%.
Rating: *
10.Cheracol Plus Cough Syrup Multisymptom Cough/Cold Formula
by Roberts
Active Ingredients (per tablespoonful/15mL): DXM HBr 20mg,
Phenylpropanolamine HCl 25mg, Chlorpheniramine Maleate 4mg,
Alcohol 8%.
Rating: *
11.Children's Vicks NyQuil Cold/Cough Relief
by Procter & Gamble
Active Ingredients (per tablespoonful/15mL): DXM HBr 15mg,
Chlorpheniramine Maleate 2mg, Pseudoephedrine HCl 30mg.
Rating: *
12.Coricidin Cough & Cold Tablets
by Schering-Plough HealthCare
Active Ingredients (per tablet): Chlorpheniramine Maleate 4mg,
DXM HBr 30mg.
Rating: ***
13.Cough X Lozenges
by Ascher
Active Ingredients (per lozenge): DXM HBr 5mg, Benzocaine 2mg.
Rating: *
14.Dimetapp DM Elixir
by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Brompheniramine
Maleate 2mg, Phenylpropanolamine HCl 12.5mg, DXM HBr 10mg.
Rating: **
15.Dorcol Children's Cough Syrup
by Sandoz Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Pseudoephedrine
HCl 15mg, Guaifenesin 50mg, DXM HBr 5mg.
Rating: *
16.Drixoral Cough Liquid Caps (No longer available)
by Schering-Plough HealthCare
Active Ingredients (per softgel): DXM HBr 30mg.
Rating: ****
17.Drixoral Cough + Congestion Liquid Caps
by Schering-Plough HealthCare
Active Ingredients (per softgel): DXM HBr 30mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 60mg.
Rating: **
18.Novahistine DMX
by SmithKline Beecham Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 10mg,
Guaifenesin 100mg, Pseudoephedrine HCl 30mg.
Rating: *
19.PediaCare Cough-Cold Liquid
by McNeil Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Chlorpheniramine Maleate
1mg, Pseudoephedrine HCl 15mg, DXM HBr 5mg.
Rating: *
20.PediaCare Night Rest Cough-Cold Liquid
by McNeil Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Chlorpheniramine Maleate
1mg, Pseudoephedrine HCl 15mg, DXM HBr 7.5mg.
Rating: *
21.Pediatric Vicks 44d Dry Hacking Cough & Head Congestion
by Procter & Gamble
Active Ingredients (per tablespoonful/15mL): DXM HBr 15mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 30mg.
Rating: *
22.Pediatric Vicks 44e Chest Cough & Chest Congestion
by Procter & Gamble
Active Ingredients (per tablespoonful/15mL): DXM HBr 10mg,
Guaifenesin 100mg.
Rating:
23.Pediatric Vicks 44m Cough & Cold Relief
by Procter & Gamble
Active Ingredients (per tablespoonful/15mL): DXM HBr 15mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 30mg, Chlorpheniramine Maleate 2mg.
Rating: *
24.Robitussin Cold & Cough Liqui-Gels
by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per softgel): Guaifenesin 200mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 30mg, DXM HBr 10mg.
Rating: *
25.Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough Suppressant
by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 15mg.
Rating: ****
26.Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough & Cold
by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 15mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 30mg.
Rating: **
27.Robitussin Pediatric Cough & Cold Formula
by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 7.5mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 15mg.
Rating: *
28.Robitussin Pediatric Cough Suppressant
by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 7.5mg.
Rating *
29.Robitussin-CF
by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Guaifenesin 100mg,
Phenylpropanolamine HCl 12.5mg, DXM HBr 10mg.
Rating: *
30.Robitussin-DM
by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Guaifenesin 100mg,
DXM HBr 10mg.
Rating: *
31.Sucrets 4-Hour Cough Suppressant
by SmithKline Beecham Consumer
Active Ingredients (per lozenge): DXM HBr 15mg.
Rating: **
32.Sudafed Cough Syrup
by WARNER WELLCOME
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Pseudophedrine
HCl 15mg, DXM HBr 5mg, Guaifenesin 100mg.
Rating: *
33.Triaminic AM Cough and Decongestant Formula
by Sandoz Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 7.5mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 15mg.
Rating: *
34.Triaminic Nite Light Nighttime Cough and Cold Medicine for Children
by Sandoz Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Pseudoephedrine
HCl 15mg, Chlorpheniramine Maleate 1mg, DXM HBr 7.5mg.
Notes: In a palatable, grape-flavored, alcohol-free liquid.
Rating: *
35.Triaminic-DM Syrup
by Sandoz Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Phenylpropanolamine
HCl 6.25mg, DXM HBr 5mg.
Notes: In a palatable, berry-flavored, alcohol-free liquid.
Rating: *
36.Triaminicol Multi-Symptom Cold Tablets
by Sandoz Consumer
Active Ingredients (per tablet): Phenylpropanolamine HCl
12.5mg, Chlorpheniramine Maleate 2mg, DXM HBr 10mg.
Rating: **
37.Triaminicol Multi-Symptom Relief
by Sandoz Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): Phenylpropanolamine
HCl 6.25mg, Chlorpheniramine Maleate 1mg, DXM HBr 5mg.
Notes: In a palatable, cherry-flavored, alcohol-free liquid.
Rating: *
38.Vicks 44 Dry Hacking Cough
by Procter & Gamble
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM HBr 15mg.
Rating: **
39.Vicks 44d Dry Hacking Cough & Head Congestion
by Procter & Gamble
Active Ingredients (per tablespoonful/15mL): DXM HBr 30mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 60mg.
Rating: **
40.Vicks 44 LiquiCaps Non-Drowsy Cough & Cold Relief
by Procter & Gamble
Active Ingredients (per softgel): DXM HBr 30mg,
Pseudoephedrine HCl 60mg.
Rating: **
41.Vicks 44e
by Procter & Gamble
Active Ingredients (per tablespoonful/15mL): DXM HBr 20mg,
Guaifenesin 200mg.
Rating: *
42.PediaPressin Drops
by Quintex
Active Ingredients (per drop): Pseudoephedrine HCl 15mg,
Guaifenesin 50mg, DXM HBr 5mg.
Rating: *
43.Scot-Tussin Sugar-Free DM
by Scot-Tussin
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL): DXM 15mg,
Chlorpheniramine Maleate 2mg.
Notes: This contains pure DXM, not DXM HBr.
Rating: **
44.Scot-Tussin Sugar-Free Cough Chasers Lozenges
by Scot-Tussin
Active Ingredients (per lozenge): DXM 2.5mg.
Notes: This contains pure DXM, not DXM HBr.
Rating:
45.Sucrets 4-Hour Cough Suppressant
by SmithKline Beecham
Active Ingredients (per lozenge): DXM HBr 15mg.
Rating: ****
46.Suppressin DM Caplets
by Quintex
Active Ingredients (per caplet): DXM HBr 15mg,
Guaifenesin 200mg.
Rating: *
47.Delsym Extended-Release Suspension
by Fisons
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL):
DXM Polistirex.
Notes: DXM Polistirex is equivalent to
30mg of DXM HBr.
Rating: ****
I also have some information on DXM sources available in Europe. One user who
lives in Italy said he used Fluprim by Roche (which should be available all
over the European community). It contains 300 mg of DXM per bottle of
lozenges or syrup and 327 mg per box of tablets (each box contains 20
tablets), and DXM is the only active ingredient. He also mentions Vicks
for Dry Cough but it only has 150 mg per bottle of syrup and has a very
nasty taste (not recommended).
Also, some users in the United Kingdom pointed out Vicks Vaposyrup, which
contains DXM and guaifenesin, and Robitussin Dry Cough. The other ingredients
in the latter are ethanol, disodium edetate, sodium benzoate, and amaranth
(not sure if these are active or inactive ingredients).
If you have any information on any other DXM cough preparations please let
me know and I'll include them in this section.
Listed below are various Internet sites containing useful information on DXM.
The DXM FAQ - highly recommended
http://www.frognet.net/dxm/contents.html
The Third Plateau - highly recommended site
http://third-plateau.lycaeum.org
The DXM Appreciation Page
http://www.ugmadness.com/Ledderson/DxM/
EROWID - DXM Dosage
http://www.erowid.com/entheogens/dxm/dxm_dose.shtml
The Lycaeum - DXM
http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/synthetics/dxm/
Infomed Drug Guide - DXM pharmacology
http://www.infomed.org/100drugs/dextfram.html
Experiences in using DXM as a smart drug
http://www.damicon.fi/sd/dxm.exp.html
Home of the DXM calculator for Windows
http://advicom.net/~chris
Dextromethorphan in the treatment of a child's epilepsy
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1000/trdextr.htm
Hyperreal's Dissociative Page
http://www.hyperreal.org/drugs/psychedelics/dissociative/
Big Fun Glossary - gives an idea of the DXM drug culture
http://atlas.comet.net/~gus/bigfun/
Deja Vu - Confessions of a Robo Tripper
http://www.wideawake.org/robo.html
The Dextromethorphan Defense - what to do about drug tests
http://gema.library.ucsf.edu:8081/Originals/SAEMabs/z.abs63x2.html
Medline - search this for studies done with DXM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/
BURR Online - Abusing Cough Syrup article done by KSU college students
http://www.burr.kent.edu/cough/cough.html
DeeXMan's Dextromethorphan Page
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/3391/dxm.html
The Happy Place in Your Brain...DXM Stuff
http://www.kelani.com/null/null.html
Usenet - drug newsgroups on the Internet
alt.drugs hierarchy, rec.drugs hierarchy, talk.politics.drugs
DXM EFnet IRC channel #dxm homepage
http://phun.dreamhost.com/dxm
DXM EFnet IRC channels - DXM chat
IRC channel #dxm
from Internet reports
Listed below are a few of the more interesting trip reports we have come
across floating around out there on the Internet. Dosage and other relative
information are given when available, and we made no attempt at correcting
grammatical errors, so read at your own risk. Enjoy!
D. P. (male). 900mg
I went down to the lake one Saturday morning and took a few boxes of
Drixoral cough liqui-caps. Invited some friends along, but nobody could
come with me, so I took ALL the little motherfuckers. I walked along the
side of the lake for a few miles, not feeling any major effects yet. Then,
suddenly, it hit. I felt very dizzy, and very out of place. I couldn't
walk so I sat down on a park bench.
It was foreign... here I was on a park bench in some strange place, with
everything spinning around me. Cars hissed by on Lake Shore Drive, seem like
some kind of deadly monster, or dangerous presence. I was very confused;
decided to walk back. It was hard to walk when everything was twisting in
strange directions, but I made it all the way down to where there was a tree
in the sand. (I'm not sure if there really WAS a tree there, but at the time
there seemed to be). Walked down to the tree and collapsed beneath it. Look-
ing at the sky thru its branches, the cars seemed very far away. It was some-
how very comforting... the sky, and sand, and tree, and me...everything else
seemed distant and unimportant. Wanted to stay there, but after a while
(minutes or hours - sense of time totally gone) I got up and went on.
A mile or so further I sat down on a rock looking out on the water. The
patterns of the light on the water were endlessly fascinating, and when I
closed my eyes I vividly saw a field of flame, wild naked girls running thru
it, somehow unharmed by the flame because they were just a part of the flame,
and I was a part of the flame, and everything was unified in the flame. When
I opened my eyes, all I saw was water... after a while of experiencing the
fire world and the water world I got up and decided to crawl home. I was
very paranoid of getting hit by a car but somehow I made it.
Realized I was getting dehydrated (which might have been causing some of
the delirium) so I drank something. Then I sat down on the couch... and
realized that maybe I wasn't on the couch at all, I was still on the rock
on the beach and this whole thing had been a very strange hallucination.
For the next few hours I was sure that's what was going on, and kept expect-
ing to open my eyes...
Finally things returned more or less to normal. later that night there
were some kind of weak residual visuals (fireworks)... who knows? Maybe I
still AM on that rock...
P. L. (male). 900mg; friend (male). 600mg
Around 9 PM I took 30 drixorals, around 900 mg. My friend, T, took 20,
which is 600 mg. I was experienced, he was not.
9:30: The power goes off! It's a really intense thunderstorm, even for
Texas. The lights (and my computer, which was playing Acid Warp) shut down.
My sister calls T and I into her room to watch the thunderstorm. I start to
realize I am a bit fucked up (like stoned on pot.)
10:00: T and I retire to my room again. Am I tripping now. I leave the
window open so I can watch the beautiful lightning... let me tell you that
is a trip on any drug! I have a perfect little tripping environment set up.
My friend T is visiting me from out of town, and he is sleeping in my bed.
I am laying on a few blankets on the floor. I have a CD player, a stack of
Hendrix, Beatles, and THE GRATEFUL DEAD (emphasis to show that this is the
all-time great tripping band) and a really good set of headphones. Also I
have a journal and a few pens. I decide to start writing down random
thoughts.
After checking to see if T is tripping or not (he isn't) I turn out the
light and put in Jimi Hendrix's Electric Ladyland. Oh my god. If any of
you aren't experienced with this album, GET IT. It's availible on a CD
reissue with good liner notes. By the time the actual song "Electric Lady-
land" came on, I was on the upswing of my trip. Since I was on a rather
large amount of DXM, let me tell you I was flying. Literally. I closed
my eyes and entered a new universe of Jimi. I started on a tall cliff
overlooking a craggy valley. The sky was a deep purple. I took a single
step off the cliff and dropped many hundreds of feet. Eventually my fall
turned into a gentle swoon and I soared up over "Electric Ladyland."
Believe me words fail to describe exactly what I saw and did, but it is
comparable to what I have read about DMT: you enter a different universe.
Once again, your mileage may vary of course.
I won't write out exactly what I was thinking about to each track on EL,
but the climax was the Rainy Day/1983/Moon Turn the Tides/Still Raining
suite. This is in some ways the opposite of Electric Ladyland because
instead of flying over purple mountains, I was swimming in the deep blue
ocean. I explored a shipwreck on the bottom of the ocean. In the sunken
ship was a door. I opened the door and saw my old friend Matt whom I was
semi-estranged from. We had a reconciliation and I started crying (in real
life).
T turned on the light and asked me what was wrong. I said nothing, I was
just going over some issues in my past (this is described as the primary
effect of a high DXM dose, so beware if that's not your thing...) I asked
him if he was tripping yet and his eyes got very large and he just nodded.
He started waving his hand in front of his face and basically just looking
stunned. You see he had never smoked pot or done any other drugs than (a
large amount of) alcohol. So this was an entirely new, and pleasant, thing
for him. He was listening to a "trip mix" that I had crafted for him of a
lot of Grateful Dead and Beatles.
I opened my journal and scrawled (it's hard to write on DXM) something to
the effect of describing what had just happened. Then I went back into the
dream. I finished exploring 1983 (the ocean) and listening to the rest of
Electric Ladyland. Of course a lot of stuff "happened" in between that but
I won't cover it here.
I put in the White Album by the Beatles and affirmed the reasons why I
have listened to them for so many years. The White Album is another must-
have, BTW. It seems to fit roboing so well, because it is at times harsh
and at others gentle. The imagery of the lyrics and music are conducive to
tripping. I guess this is why it's considered Psychedelic... Dear Prudence
is a fantastic song.
Later I listened to Europe '72 by the Dead. Like the images of the
Beatles from A Hard Day's Night, the Dead have a very carefree fun image in
my mind. In other words they are a bunch of guys (and gals if you include
Donna) that you would just want to hang around with. Well, that's what I
did. :) During "Sugar Magnolia," I got onstage with the band and played
guitar and sang along. Bob and I were trading licks. (I had sort of
"become" Jerry Garcia.) T later reported to me that during "Crazy Fingers -
Drums - The Other One" (which I put on his tape) he was the audience, meaning
the ENTIRE audience, and the Dead were shining their music on him. Later he
got picked up and passed around the audience (like crowd-surfing) which turned
into the ocean.
During "Truckin/Prelude/Morning Dew" I was walking around the Sierra mount-
ains (my home growing up) watching the trees and listening to the birds. My
friends were there, and each one had an alter ego in the band. In other
words, I was Jerry, T was Mickey Hart, my friend Scott was Bob Weir, etc.
We all just had fun and walked around in the forest.
I listened to a lot of other music (I didn't get to sleep until 5 the next
morning) but this gives you an idea what a lovely and beautiful trip I had.
DXM is a wonderful drug.
T. M. (male). 1020mg
At some point I was sitting in front of my computer with the lights out and
I thought to myself, "I'm going to create another person." I closed my eyes
and concentrated real hard. Then I opened them and looked to my right.
I was surprised to see myself sitting there. I looked at myself and said,
"Hi!" Then my other self looked back at me and said, "Hi!"
Then I bugged out. :)
Anonymous. 1100mg
We had just gotten back from a football game, and we decided to stop at the
drug store on the way home for some tussin. I was with 3 friends, Joe, Eli,
and Matt. We got back to my house, and me and Joe started drinking. Eli
just wanted to smoke, so I hooked him up on my vaporizer. Matt is a
straight edge, so he just sat watching us.
I finished off 12 oz, and Joe had about 6. He's much less tolerant
than me, so that put as at the same level. I noticed the effects in 30 min.
I have discovered, that unlike most other drugs, DXM comes on quicker if
my stomach is full. NO idea why this happens.
I started to feel very drunk. Joe has described the initial effects of
DXM "I feel like I'm so drunk, that if I had drunken alcohol, I'd be dead".
I was quite dizzy, and the room was spinning slightly. Getting up and moving
around was initially an effort, but it also felt GREAT. I had a great urge
to dance to techno music. We decided to go take a walk around and have a
cigarette. We got up, and walked out, with incidentally, my parents and
younger sister all home and awake at the time.
We got back and I felt that I was starting to peak. It felt A LOT like
acid in may respects. I had just received a package from my girlfriend in
Cal, and when I opened it up, she spilled all over the floor. What I actually
think this was, was me recalling a whole lot of memories about her at once.
So many, and so intense, that I forgot they were memories, and thought that
she was actually there with me. This happened later, with two other people
we knew. They actually seemed to be in the basement with us for a very long
time. It also seemed like we were traveling in time, by what I think, was
both of us recalling memories of the past so intensely that it seemed like
reality. VERY cool.
After a while Matt and Eli left, and me and Joe just hung out. We kept
entering this trance, where we would stare at each other and say very strange
things like, "Enter the Seventh Gate, where the nexus ends", and at the same
time, make strange hand motions. At one point, this trance was so powerful,
that we had to avoid looking at each others faces, or else it would happen
automatically. Many times I felt as if I understood the nature of the uni-
verse, and the secret to life. For this reason, it was like acid. No halluc-
inations though. These effects continued for several more hours. Music was
cool, like usual, and had the effect of freeing our minds from our bodies and
allowing them to walk on the astral plane. We put in some techno and just
tranced for a while.
At about 3 am (we took the stuff at 9) we decided to go to sleep. I had
problems falling asleep, and it was a little scary but only for a second.
I had this problem, that if I tried to fall asleep, I would suddenly hear
jazz music playing loudly. VERY loudly. It was more real than normally
hearing music in my head, and it sounded just like it was coming out of my
stereo. After I have no idea how long, I eventually drifted off. The next
morning I felt just fine. Lots of fun.
T. M. (male). 1560mg + cannabis
[Note: Another long description, characteristic of the fourth plateau.]
It was an interesting experience to say the least. I had been going through
some of my old Amiga disks and came across the game 'Lemmings' and popped it
in the drive. I started from the very beginning (since I no longer have any
idea where the sheet of paper is that I wrote the level codes down on when I
first played it a few years ago) and alternated swallowing Drixorals and
smoking bowls in between levels. (I never realized that that game would be
so much fun when stoned!). Later, I washed down the Drixorals with some
syrup and decided to logon and send my buddy some email. This endeavor
didn't last very long as I soon found myself floating in a pink space with
planets in beautiful pastel colors around me. My dorm room and everything
in it were completely nonexistent.
I've roboed several times before and NEVER have I had visuals like that
WITH MY EYES OPEN. Always I see things around me and only interpret them
differently; it's not until I close my eyes that I completely lose myself.
The closest I have come to that in the past was when I was tripping on
1260mg and I thought I was in a forest. But then my desk and computer were
in the forest with me. This time I had no connection with this world whatso-
ever. When I came out of that hallucination I decided the email thang just
wasn't going to happen - can't type if I can't see the keyboard!
So I went over to my bed to smoke one last bowl. I was lying on my
stomach and looking out the window. For some reason I got it into my head
that I was a cat. This didn't bother me.. felt perfectly normal in fact..
I thought I had always been of the feline persuasion.
Some time later (It's really hard for me to put the events of that night
together.. There are a lot of gaps in my memory and what I do remember I
just remember as events without any kind of time stamp on them) I was lying
down listening to music and I had another full blown vision like the pink
space one... oh boy, this is gonna be hard to describe.. hummm I was no
longer in my body - I was just a consciousness floating in space - and I was
looking at a spiral. It was like a spring but instead of each loop being
circular, they were perfect squares. This square spring extend out to infin-
ity in both directions. Each square loop was flat on the top and bottom and
thick.. as if someone had cut a square spiral out of paper and pulled it out.
The loops were divided into sections and each section was a window into
another reality. I was looking at a portion of the spiral that had the
window to this world. Each window opened onto a different part of my exist-
ence: moving down the coil, the window adjacent to the one I was looking at
opened onto the world of my life before this one and the next window after
that revealed my life before that and so on. Likewise, moving up the coil,
the window adjacent to the one I was looking at revealed the my next life
after this one and the next window after that revealed one more life and so
on. So, up were my future lives and down were my past lives..
The next thing that happened to me I'd like to mention because it was
rather scary. Normally, I use the music coming through my headphones as
that one last thread of this reality. I know that no matter what happens, if
I can still hear music then (a) my body is still alive and functioning proper-
ly no matter what I may think and (b) I will always be able to find my way
back; there's no possibility of getting lost. It's like a security blanket.
I had been looking at a large blue shape that was a sphere with a concave
trench dug out around its equator and there were movies playing inside the
trench that I was watching (I can't for the life of me remember what they
were unfortunately). Suddenly, everything stopped and.. oh man, here we
go again.. I felt myself falling into the very fabric of the universe.
As I was falling I had the vague notion that I was dying. It didn't bother
me at the time and I was curious so I reached out further with my mind. It
was like I was growing smaller and smaller.. I shrunk down past the subatomic
level. And as my mind reached.. outward?..inward?.. downward? I dunno.. I
touched something.
Unfortunately I only retained part of the feeling and nothing more.. but I
remember being overwhelmed. I really wish I could remember more of it. Any
words I could use to describe what I felt just don't seem to correctly de-
scribe it.. a surge of energy and a feeling of 'correctness' like I actually
belonged somewhere for once. Anyway, the full meaning of my earlier thought
of death sunk in. I was sure I had died and I felt that if I stayed there
any longer I'd never get back. I pulled myself away, which was no easy task
because I didn't want to leave.. it felt so good there.. so right. But once
I made that initial move, I started racing back faster than I had come. I
found myself floating above my body and looking down at it. It was then
that I realized that I wasn't hearing any music.. In fact, when I thought
about it, I couldn't remember hearing any music during that entire trip.. my
security blanket was gone and I freaked out.
In a frenzy I forced myself back into my body and with some difficulty
managed to open my eyes. I could hear the music once again but this was
little consolation since my body was cold.. felt like I had been lying out-
side with my clothes off. And I couldn't feel any part of it.. not even the
familiar beating of my heart (yes, I know this is normal for robo but I was
in a big paranoia fit at the time and the MJ wasn't helping). I tried to
reach over and feel my heart, but I only got my arm a few inches off the
bed before it feel limply at my side. That did it.. I was really scared
now and I was sure that my heart had stopped and if it hadn't yet it was
real close to it and I only had seconds left on this earth. I decided my
only chance at survival was to try and get my body moving to keep my heart
stimulated. I gathered up all my willpower and with one big effort managed
to sit up. I pulled the headphones off, got out of bed and started jumping
up and down.. Then I did some push ups.. I did those push ups like a wild
man; thinking that if I stopped, my heart would stop and I would die.
Eventually I calmed down enough to think, "if you can do all these push
ups, your body must be all right." So I sat back on my bed and just for
peace of mind I checked my pulse (by this time I had come down enough that
I could accomplish this task.. still had to close one eye though because of
that double vision). It was at a low 47 bpm.. and I had just been exercising
not too long ago! my body was still cold and numb but 47 is a good healthy
pulse rate (my norm is around 52-55 resting) so I had a cigarette and then
went to bed.
The next day I woke up late.. late enough that my vision was back to
normal. But my body felt weird. felt all tingly all over like there was
a layer of helium just under my skin. And when I walked I felt like I was
sloshing around inside it. I went outside and everything was new to me.
The world engaged my senses like never before.. sight, smell, hearing, touch..
it was pure sensory overload. I passed by a group of people and a wave of
energy hit me that nearly knocked me to my knees. This happened several more times but each time it was less intense until I could
stand next to someone again and only feel mild sensations within me.
It is now 5 days since then, and my body still feels different. My over-
active senses have managed to return to normal, but I still feel like I'm
sloshing around in my body.. even now while I'm sitting down. And I still
have that helium feeling only it's no longer all over my whole body at once..
it's localized to various areas and those areas are constantly moving around.
I played some vball and it doesn't seem to affect my coordination.. in fact
I feel that I can use my body better now than I could before (a good thing
too 'cause I've gotta play away games in Reno and Chico this weekend.. I'd
hate to have to explain to the team that I can no longer play ball because
I roboed to hard and fucked my body up!)
I wasn't expecting this to turn out to be so long.. but I just had to
share this experience.. I couldn't keep it to myself any longer. I hope
I didn't bore y'all too much!
A. P. (male, age 18, 82kg). 600mg
Everything seemed like a dream and I honestly think I was dying. I was
walking around in public and most people seemed like inanimate objects.
I was definitely on a higher astral plane than them, although I didn't look
down on them in any way. they just ignored me completely though. I walked
past a chapel and saw two guys. although there were many people around, I
knew that all three of us were on the same plane (later, I even heard them
mention using acid so I was right). I wanted to talk to them but was afraid
to and so quickly walked away to the drug store which was a mile or two away
in my bedroom slippers to buy more DXM (at this point I was not yet completely
gone). I was very dizzy and the sea legs had just hit me. (Before my walk,
I sat in the sun and enjoyed the light-headedness. My body felt very light).
By the time I made it to the shopping center, it was just like being a
ghost. On the way, I knew I was dying but it was very pleasant. My soul
gradually dissociated from my body and the world seemed so strange, uncertain
and mysterious. I remember seeing a leaf blowing in the wind and I knew that
it and I (along with everything else) were really the same thing. Near the
end, however, my hands and arms started to tingle a lot (the same feeling
that you get if you wake up after having slept on one of your limbs), my
face and neck were getting paralyzed, my heart was beating very fast, and
I was having severe robo movements. Added to all this, it was getting
harder to move but I was at McDonald's by myself and had to get home.
I kept thinking, "I have to call my friend, I have to call my friend"
(who I had told about my plans). My life started to flash in front of me
and for a second I saw myself from the outside (although I think it was just
my image). This was all very freaky. I knew then that I was really dying.
Everyone in the restaurant (and everywhere else) was acting as if I were
either normal (unlikely) or already dead (invisible). Everything seemed
like a series of pictures (flanging) and I got on the bus. Excuse the
incontinuity, but life lost its linear character and so its hard for me
to remember this in a linear fashion.
About then, I kept on thinking about significant people from my past
(one in particular) and his (not the person I finally called) image and
then mine flashed in my mind. I had a strong urge to call him and say good-
bye. I wanted to share with him (and everyone) my insights on life and I was
aware that I was closing one chapter of my life and starting a completely new
one. I then realized that I had to get out of McDonalds while I could still
move. I had just taken 60 mg more.
Then, all my religious insights vanished and my panic began. I waited on
the bus for a long time. After I was on it, I then felt trapped, scared,
very dizzy and sick. We stopped at a busy stoplight next to a motel. I went
to the front of the bus and asked to be let off, she first said no but I told
her I was really sick and she agreed. 5 seconds later I puked three times in
front of all these cars and rushed into the motel's men's room. I threw up
some more. I was in a cold sweat and felt very sick. the room was dizzy and
if I hadn't been already familiar with the place I wouldn't have recognized
it. I sat for about 5 or 10 minutes and then robotically walked back home,
where I called my friend, who was an absolute blessing. I told him everything
and soon started to come back, although I could only lie down and was breath-
ing very heavy with a fast heartbeat. My experience was horrible (except for
the brief insights) and I'm truly convinced that the DXM high is identical to
dying.
Anonymous (male, age 19, 55kg). 600mg
A few weekends ago, none of my friends were available to do anything, so I
decided to try some DXM. I had eaten about 4 hours before, and had a Super
Big Gulp, but I was bored and had time to waste. I bought a package of generic
DXM liquicaps (the Smith's store in Arizona sells 10 30mg tablets for $1.49),
and took them.
I waited for over an hour, and I could feel no effect. I figure this is
probably because my stomach was full. So, I went to the store. I bought
another 10 tablets, and took them. With both packages, I took a total of
600 mg DXM, which was probably a bit too much for my first time, and my
weight (120 lb.).
I watched TV for a while, and I began to feel a bit different. I walked
up to go to the bathroom, and I walked like I do when I'm drunk. I returned
to my room, and watched some more TV. By now, it had been over an hour since
I finished my second package of tablets.
I sat in my room, and began to look around. Where was I? I looked around
and the room seemed to be so foreign to me. It was like I had stepped into
someone else's room in a different location entirely. I just stared at a
cardboard box on the other side of my room.
I began to get very confused, very disturbed. Who am I? What is happening
here? More confusion. About 2+ hours into the trip, I began to forget who I
was. I had to ask myself, and strenuously think, "who am I?" It took me a
while, but I was able to say "I'm C." and I figured out who I was. But it
didn't seem like me. I could think of who I was, and say who I was, but I
didn't feel like that person.
I lost track of time. I lost track of what was happening to me. I wanted
to know what happened to me. It was like I somehow got into a different
dimension, with strange things going on in my head, and I didn't know what.
"WHAT IS HAPPENING?" I soon figured out that I had taken something called DXM,
and that was the cause of my confusion. But it was bizarre.
I went to my bed to lay down to sleep. I fell asleep. Then, I was flying
in the air - actually, I was being suspended by my shoulders. I was being
lifted up in the air by my shoulders, and it was dark out. I was lifted
over buildings. The buildings were really simple (skyscrapers). I opened
my eyes, and I wasn't flying. I closed my eyes, and I was being suspended
in the air again.
Then, I was going down a slide. But it wasn't like an ordinary slide at
a park, it was like a slide in a totally abstract world. Everything around
me was black and grey and maybe there were a few white lines around. But I
was in this strange world, and I couldn't stop myself from falling down this
slide. I was on my stomach, and I kept falling down, and down. It was
really disturbing.
I woke up after feeling this. I had to think who I was again. I had to
think what was happening. I was out of control, and I didn't like all the
intense hallucinations, since they were more than visual, as I _was_ being
lifted in the air, or going down the slide. I didn't like any of this at
the time.
I got to sleep again. I felt something warm, then hot in my chest. I
grabbed the garbage can sitting next to the bed (how convenient) and puked.
And puked. And puked. And puked. But it didn't really bother me at the
time, I was so far out of reality that it didn't feel that bad. I just
wanted to puke it all up so it could stop. I went back to bed. I slept
most of the next day, and didn't feel well at all.
Repo Man (male). 1050mg
When I was stationed in Korea, we could buy these little yellow pills over
the counter that we only knew as Romilars. We had no idea what they were
and because the people selling them to us wanted to keep the mystery up
(I guess so we didn't just go to another store and order whole caseload of
them) they just gave them to us in little paper bags.
Anyway, if we ate about 70 of them, we would get so absolutely wasted
we were literally walking around in our universe for 8 hours or more at a
time. Really a beautiful feeling where you lose your peripheral vision and
space expands and you have very vivid, very solid looking hallucinations in
360 degrees. Your entire reality changes, BUT your minds alertness doesn't
disappear. i.e.-you never THINK you can fly or anything. You are able to
deeply enjoy music and cheap b-grade horror movies are INTENSE!! Shit, I
stayed up ALL NIGHT once watching The Evil Dead II over and over and feeling
like I was in the movie.
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Credits: I wish to thank everyone who contributed with the articles in the
zine, along with both people from the #Dxm IRC channel. Also everyone from
Usenet who helped with newsgroup postings and of course my girlfriend for
her patience once again in the creation of this month's zine, which took
an extremely high amount of work to finish. -Gravol
Last Issue: DXM and Creativity - Streetlights and Other Electrical
Phenomenon - The Nightmare of Coricidin - Recipe for Getting Pure DXM Powder -
Delsym...A Whole New Trip - DXM is Here to Stay - Schering-Plough's Reply to a
Consumer Complaint on DXM Abuse - An Ode to DXM, and many more articles.
Next Issue: An in-depth look at how DXM can induce out-of-body experiences,
along with some interesting facts on astral projection, plus much, much more!
Due out in January 1998.
Special Note: If you'd like past issues, simply mail me $2 per issue to cover
postage and I'll send them out to you immediately. Also, please be informed
that I am moving to Florida within the next few months... St. Augustine to
be exact. I will give you my new address whenever I get it, but for now it
is still safe to mail to the address at the end of this zine, and should be
for up to 6 months after I move (because of forwarding).
If you'd like to contribute an article or any information to the DXM Zine,
simply mail to the address below. The Zine for now is free, but any contri-
butions to reduce the tremendous cost of postage would be helpful in maintain-
ing its free distribution. Thank you and have a Happy New Year!
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